if they are so concerned about children, how about doing something about the mormon church and the fucking horrible crimes that are committed against women and children in it?
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The Mormon Government of Putin representatives working for your freedom. The UTah Oblast is becoming a miniature version of CCP run China.
More ways to control our lives and track our movements.
"Party of small government".
Personally, I would stop using any site that did this. We all know nothing matters in this country but money. Companies stop making as much, they'll get legislation changed.
They may have been at one point but they def stopped once Thiel and other big technocrats got involved
We need debit cards that aren’t tethered to banking institutions which are bound to enforce this shit on their apps/websites.
Also, isn’t legislating against VPN usage just a new way to legislate over the rights of people who don’t live in your state? Because, how is a company going to prove whether you’re in California or Utah using a California based VPN? They won’t care… They’ll just enforce that everyone bides by Utah law, regardless of your origin.
It seems like it's just a matter of time until the US has it's own red firewall.
But spoofing a phone number and harassing me all day isn't worth solutioning. This Gov. is not representing us.
The Biden admin was about to regulate data brokers but then Trump happened.
They're always "about to" but never seem to do it.
If one "side" fixed anything they would not only lose the backing of their corporate sponsors, they wouldn't be able to point to the problem anymore and say they'll fix it to round up some votes before promptly going back to ignoring or supporting what they campaigned on stopping.
Yet another Biden failure! When will that guy stop causing all our problems?! Thanks Biden! /s
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Every website would be better served to come up with a way to block all IP ranges that come out of Utah ISPs. Better to just block the whole state than try to play this game.
And the reverse too, spam the state servers with age-unverified connections and then file a complaint against the state.
Have they thought about passing a law that checks to see if the people making the law have an IQ above 50?
This is the dumbest, most waste of time bullshit particularly when the rest of the country is imploding. Maybe they should focus on things that matter.
Maybe they should focus on things that matter.
That requires effort. Something Republicans are incapable of doing unless it involves consolidating control over other's lives.
Revenge of the Mormons.
Drop an m and this still holds up.
Those damn ormons
nice
Wait, how long until literally any software business realizes what this is, and hard lobbies against it?
You basically must conduct all your business unencrypted in the state of Utah if this is to be understood.
Only business that would require an ID/Age Verification check, but yeah. Except they don't want to hold actual websites liable. They want to hold ISP's liable.
There's literally no way to know if the people using the VPN's are located in Utah. So this law would be unenforceable against actual websites.
It might possibly be enforceable against ISP's but the problem is, once you fire up a VPN your ISP can only see your entry point and maybe that there is a volume of traffic going to and from your device. They can't see what websites you visit (provided your VPN is properly configured).
I also don't understand how this bill could effectively lay any blame against the websites for knowing you use a VPN because they also can't see any of that information. They know that you visited and from a specific IP "located" in "place" and they can either assume that the use of a VPN means you're in Utah (very unlikely), or they can assume you're not (more likely given the population that lives outside Utah).
The acceleration of the popularization of darknets continues, it's going to be a tough decade, but at the end of it, we'll all be more private and secure. Learn about Tor, I2P, and anonymous internet alternatives!
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If I were a lawyer arguing against the law in court, my primary argument would be that this violates the interstate commerce section of the US Constitution.
looks at the scotus playbook
yeah that falls in between 'nuhh uh' and 'don't care'.
only problem is, it's gonna get upheld 6-3
Russia's VPN crackdown disrupts banks, marketplaces and government services
And so if I'm in Utah as a traveller I can't check my local news by vpn? Ok
Can we just trade Utah to, I dunno, Mexico for three bucks and a half eaten burrito?
mexico rejects offer, counteroffers three pesos and half eaten burro
wait, i'm confused, do we have to pay them the three bucks and give them the burrito to get them to take it?
So how do they plan on figuring out if any given user behind a VPN is in Utah?
We can just add a few thousand tor nodes too. Not sure how they will ever enforce this.
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The stupidity of these lawmakers is beyond wild. How the fuck is this real?
I have a similar idea, let's prosecute the police when they fail to catch criminals and punish them instead. A killer got away? Death penalty for the police officer in charge. That will make the killers think twice!
Or even better, let's prosecute politicians when their laws backfire and do more damage than good.
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lol Mormons have the NSA servers in Utah.
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