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    [–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I mean, if you're punk and you aren't rebelling, then you aren't punk.

    [–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    What about rebelling from rebelling?

    [–] caurvo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

    That's just confirming with extra steps

    [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 118 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    If you aren't rebelling, are you actually punk?

    [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Yeah, one of these things is not like the other.

    If you're only punk for the aesthetic, you're not punk. Sorry not sorry.

    [–] guy@piefed.social 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    Gatekeeping punk? That's not very punk

    [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago

    Gatekeeping nazis out of punk spaces? Very punk.

    Gatekeeping performative nepo babies out of class struggle? Also punk.

    Conformism and obedience to unjust authorities are literally contrary to being punk by definition. If you allow those things, "punk" becomes meaningless, just a fad.

    Dressing punk without acting punk is not punk.

    [–] astropenguin5@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Yeah was gonna say, one of these is actually true and it's that punk is pretty inherently rebellious.

    [–] guy@piefed.social 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Which is why not rebelling is extra punk

    [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

    Rebelling against the counterculture is so punk^2^

    ... we should call them "punk squares."

    [–] frank_exchange_of_views@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    SuSe 7.1 was my first experience with Linux, I got a boxed copy with paper manuals and everything. It was glorious, I learned so much from that.

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I just can't not read "Open Sussy"

    [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

    that osussy got me 🥵

    [–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

    I always found that image to be funny. I'm Asian and I like math.

    [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    I tried getting in touch with my heritage and using OpenSUSE but it really doesn't click with me. From the installer to the whoke YaST thing, others love it but I'm just a bad German.

    I also don't own a car or watch football so this tracks

    [–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I know you kid and I'm sure you a good German but:

    SUSE started in 1994 according to Wikipedia. At the time, it was one of the only good and stable Linux distribution that you could reliably install anywhere without tweaking configuration files all over the place.

    IIRC, all the previous distributions have been obsoleted once Ubuntu was available.

    [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    IIRC, all the previous distributions have been obsoleted once Ubuntu was available.

    I mean,yes and no? At the time, Ubuntu made itself an extremely prolific and easy to start linux experience. The adaptations that ubuntu presented have been replicated in several other distros now, and Canonical have made questionable choices to the point where Mint seems like THE beginner/minimal config distro, the things that are universally acceptable from Ubuntu are being rolled back into debian, and mint itself is trying to go for a debian based version which is basically the same level of friendliness.

    [–] waldfee@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago

    The installer's partitioner and package selection can get a bit complicated, but imo it's a pretty guided experience. You also don't have to use YaST on OpenSUSE, it's just a nice alternative to having to copy commands from some random tutorial, and it's also being replaced: YAST is now Agama, Cockpit and Myrlyn on openSUSE

    [–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    While the packages are a shitshow (missing depends, etc. (Edit: I had multiple problems with shotcut because of this and grew frustrated enough that I just use the Appimage now)), the TW is updated very often and is really stable, it's on a level with fedora. Also the default firewall config is very strict, which is good.

    Yes, the Yast installer is terrible and I had to do my encryption with ext4 (instead of BTRFS) manually in terminal, because the install would somehow break everything.

    It's a mixed bag, but as a disorganized person who doesn't do regular updates and still likes to have new packages, I like it.

    [–] Tja@programming.dev 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    Ich benutze Arch, übrigens.

    [–] MsFlammkuchen@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago

    Ich nutze Bogen, bei dem Weg

    [–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

    Ich benutze Arsch... meistens um zu sitzen

    [–] timestatic@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago
    [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Bin eher ein ratten-nächstenliebe Genießer

    [–] pleb_maximus@piefed.zip 3 points 1 day ago

    Nutzername prüft aus, ja-ja.

    [–] Staff@piefed.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Been using it for like 3 years and it has been great. Really baffled how it is not more popular.

    It's a great European alternative.

    Not German btw

    [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    Really baffled how it is not more popular.

    https://blog.riemann.cc/digitalisation/2025/12/21/eu-os-which-linux-distribution-fits-europe-best/#comparison-of-linux-distributions

    The EU OS was looking for certain criteria, and this comparison table shows that there are some features they want that Open Suse lacks

    [–] 7uWqKj@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Bis du deutch muss du ersma Rechtschreibung

    [–] jokro@feddit.org 1 points 17 hours ago

    Zangendeutsch

    [–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 days ago

    die Grammatik ist nicht wirklich besser

    [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    Tried it for pretty much that reason, turns out I hate its system GUI and can't be arsed to learn a different package manager than apt (at least not if it's not much faster and simpler than apt).

    [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    can’t be arsed to learn a different package manager than apt (at least not if it’s not much faster and simpler than apt).

    based and ubuntu tutorial crutch pilled. Just like me 😭

    [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
    [–] wurstgulasch3000@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

    I only use Debian, for everything. Gaming PC, work laptop, personal server, work servers - it truly is the universal operating system

    [–] Reznik@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    What I don't like about apt are the tools: What should I use? apt? apt-get? aptitude? In theory it shouldn't matter... But I'm always confused. openSUSE has zypper and nothing else. Fedora has dnf and an alias for yum (for the old folks I guess). Both may not be faster but they are less confusing.

    [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    What should I use? apt? apt-get? aptitude?

    that's not where I'm confused. You just use apt until it doesn't work for the specific command. The ubuntu "tutorials" sometimes use apt-get , but it's meant to be outdated on current debian.

    the fun part is knowing when to use dpkg

    [–] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

    What should I use? apt? apt-get? aptitude?

    The answer, of course, is nala.

    Fedora has dnf and an alias for yum (for the old folks I guess)

    What he say fuck me for?

    [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Use apt. I think apt-get and such are only kept around to be used in scripts or for backwards compatibility.

    [–] dwt@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

    Not anymore. The latest release of apt stabilized the command line

    [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    IMO, only reason to ever use anything but apt at this point is if you want to process the output in a script. Used to be a bit more murky because there were actually a few apt-get commands that weren't available through apt.

    Either way, I learned it this way when I could still be arsed to learn new things, and now I'm kinda stuck with it.

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