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[–] pwxd@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago

"Yeah totally secure! Just trust me!.." basically

This is LITERALLY isn't secure; they should atleast make it encrypted. This is just the same as using your notes app as password manager! But it's microsoft, and they're willingly giving your bitlocker encryption key to the FBIs for your drives. So I'm not surprised..

[–] boogiebored@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

phew it’s an expected feature, thank goodness!!!

if they patch this, they should be dragged through the town square after that comment

[–] fira@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

You guys are using edge?

[–] BaraCoded@literature.cafe 7 points 11 hours ago

How will the NSA spy on you if Microsoft doesn't hand them your passwords?

[–] Blackdoomax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago

Trust me bro

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 34 points 16 hours ago

Everytime I read a Microsoft headline these days

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 27 points 16 hours ago
[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 38 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That's the added trust and security they always boast about

[–] Alberat@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

trust is multiplicative, not additive

[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago

I haven't used a Microsoft browser or operating syatem in almost 25 years.

[–] uenticx@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

M365 chat also fetches a copy of whatever secured file links you send to each other. Goes without saying, but never use Microsoft products if you value security.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

Safety and security are foundational to Microsoft Edge. Access to browser data as described in the reported scenario would require the device to already be compromised. Design choices in this area involve balancing performance, usability, and security, and we continue to review it against evolving threats.

"We value user safety and usability, but if you're already compromised you can go fuck yourself"

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

.... They are so bad

[–] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

How can a company manage to be so bafflingly incompetent and why are there people out there still standing for it.

[–] baronvonj@piefed.social 154 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Microsoft SSH agent persistently stores your unencrypted private keys in the registry. They're still there unlocked and usable after you reboot.

https://github.com/PowerShell/Win32-OpenSSH/issues/1487

[–] mbp@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 day ago

God, the final comment in that thread makes my blood boil.

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[–] weaponG@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing in this timeline surprises me any more.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Lucky. I have surprise fatigue lol

I just can't be indifferent to reading news like "US To Start Firing Unspayed and Neutered Dogs Into The Ocean From Florida Coast"

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[–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t worry, I just don’t use Edge or Windows or any MS software really (except for Teams at work)

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 2 points 14 hours ago

Teams at work

Same here. Boss still thinks he's funny bashing Apple products as a MS fanboy 🙄

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 14 hours ago

don't worry bb

[–] 58008@lemmy.world 28 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

2026 is gonna be the year I finally move to Linux. I have huge concerns about many aspects of switching, but they're being overtaken by concerns about staying with Windows. I don't even mind if my overall user experience is a bit worse on Linux (I am trying to have reasonable expectations that it won't be the walk in the park Linux advocates on Lemmy like to claim), I just have much more faith in its security, privacy, customisability and - most importantly - the motivations and intentions of its developers.

[–] BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago

Best of luck! If you've got questions or problems feel free to DM me (or reply here) and I'll try to help as best I can. I've been using linux since the mid 90s, so I have a decent idea of how it all works :)

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 5 points 16 hours ago

Just made the move a few months ago. Only headache was a missing headset driver, but Claude was able to one shot one for me that's been stable ever since.

Not looking back. There have been very few things that haven't worked so far. Take the leap!

[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If you move to one of the big supported distributions, you'll be extremely surprised how easy it is.

If you just want things to stay consistent and easy, I can't recommend Linux mint enough. I installed it on my son's laptop almost two years ago and he's never needed my help to fix anything since.

The installation walks you through everything, just like Windows, but it'll only take about the third of the time. Everything just works and there's no trash to uninstall or debloat scripts to run when you're done.

If you do any gaming you might want to run Fedora or bazzite (fedora with training wheels), but if you're using KDE for the desktop that's almost as easy and seamless.

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Can confirm, Bazzite is ridiculously easy. If you don't want to dual-boot it's easier to install than Windows. I have it on my laptop and all my games run better now.

Except Tropico 6. For some reason that made my entire system go crazy. 😄

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[–] quantumvoid0@programming.dev 97 points 1 day ago (4 children)

does this company intentionally want users to stop using it? cuz day by day either theres a new windows bug or just shittier softwares

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 17 hours ago

The AI tells them this is fine, and we are not to question the AI.

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[–] GainGround@kopitalk.net 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Our lives are in the hands of morons. What the fuck.

[–] 1hitsong@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago

Our lives are in the hands of product managers driving programming decisions.

Oh, sorry. I just realized I repeated what you said.

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[–] gokayburucdev@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

we will take your data but don't worry be happy 😁 🇯🇲 we will not use it. Because we are smoking ganja and smiling to each other in our office. We are so happy; Thanks to AI. Peace ☮️✌️😁🕶️

Microslop Edge Team

[–] zerofk@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Access to browser data as described in the reported scenario would require the device to already be compromised.

Yes you can open our safe with just a good yank but if a thief can do that they’re already in your house.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 1 points 13 hours ago

And who in their right mind would break in to a house built by Microsoft?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 7 points 21 hours ago

If the thief is already in your house, he can also eat your meal and steal your furniture.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 14 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Eh. To be honest it indeed does not matter much. Scanning your RAM for passwords is much harder than simply reading them off the browsers files. Sure, it is encrypted and the key is not necessarily on your computer, but remember that if the software can decrypt your passwords without you inputting a password or similar, then anything with access to your device can as well.

Don't use your browser's password manager.

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

HOLY @#%^ WHAT IN THE @#%^ DO THEY MEAN "NOT TO WORRY"?????????????????

[–] XLE@piefed.social 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, hold on now, maybe Microsoft has a reasonable explanation for how they actually do secure their passwords...

This is an expected feature of the application.

... Never mind.

[–] JohnAnthony@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Design choices in this area involve balancing performance, usability, and security

Nothing to do with usability since decrypting your passwords one by one is perfectly fine. So they are saying this is about performance ? Holy fuck...

[–] albbi@piefed.ca 2 points 12 hours ago

They're just doing what Copilot told them to!

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[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Microsoft - So secure we ROT13 encode everything... TWICE!

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[–] darkmogool@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago

Why did I read "Microsoft Edge lords"?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Btw, don't ever copy&paste from your password manager, if that's a problem. That's what memory protection mechanisms in hardware and software are for.

The problem is, the weird way it is implemented in Edge and how MS handles the issue.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Btw, don't ever copy&paste from your password manager, if that's a problem

Maybe, but at least with my password manager, they'd only get passwords as I use them and not the keys to the kingdom when I open it.

The problem is, the weird way it is implemented in Edge and how MS handles the issue.

"Handles the issue" is a weird way to say they don't give a shit about protecting your passwords. They had to change this behavior, because chromium doesn't do this by default, so it's not really even negligence in Microsoft at that point. They chose to do this.

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