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[–] FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't understand. So if I only lock my phone (turn the screen off) without rebooting it, it is not fully encrypted (considering that the device storage encryption is enabled)?

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Something like that. I'm not familiar with the exact details, but there is an additional layer of encryption that applies before the first unlock after a reboot.

Parts of the OS have to be unencrypted for it to function properly.

[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Autoreboot is a thing on Samsung phones for quite a while, you can even choose the days of the week and the time for the reboot.

[–] Sendbeer@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Not for a while, at least not on their flagships.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as "auto" doesn't mean "forced".

But knowing current trends, especially with Android, it likely will be.

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Option to enable automatically rebooting the device when no profile has been unlocked for the configured time period to put the device fully at rest again, which is enabled by default at 18 hours. This can be configured at Settings > Security > Auto reboot.

https://grapheneos.org/features#auto-reboot

But it's a security measure to get it to BFU, where data is at rest and secure, in case your phone is out of your possession for an extended period of time (someone steals it, police take it, etc) so it becomes harder to exploit. I've set mine to 12. Some do 4 or even less. Feel free to turn it off.

[–] syd@lemy.lol -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I wish Graphene would choose a better phone than ugly-looking Pixels.

[–] gigachad@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My problem is not their design but the fact they are Google phones, as I boycott Google. Also second hand Pixels are hard to acquire for a reasonable price..

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Guess that depends on what you mean by reasonable.

The 5 is $130 as refurb, with warranty, from walmart. It was $699 new.

If you want a newer phone, well, it's gonna cost more. Just like brand new phones.

If their price is still "high", that simply reflects their desireabilty, probably from a balance of features and performance by price.

[–] evo@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

as I boycott Google

So you shouldn't really be using any Android phone then...

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

What, and use Apple? Linux phones aren't usable yet, and at least android is open source so using a non google Android phone doesn't support Google.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As far as I know they only accept Pixel devices because they are the only devices on the market that allow locking the bootloader after installation and also because of the Titan coprocessor which greatly increases system security

[–] FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

because they are the only devices on the market that allow locking the bootloader after installation

AFAIK on Xiaomi Mi A2 lite if I flash back the stock fastboot ROM (I had it do it once because I crippled the partition images (this phone is A/B partition device)) it locks your bootloader and you have to unlock it again. I don't know if this applyes to MIUI/Hyper OS phones too, because mi a2 lite used near to stock android.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Why would I want to lock the bootloader? I like having freedom 9f OS, I don't want to replace one OS I'm locked into with a different, albeit more privacy friendly one. Most laptops have unlocked bootloaders.

[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago

There's also a third reason, which is regular and timely firmware updates. One of the reasons why the GrapheneOS team rejected the Fairphone was due to the lack of proper firmware updates.

[–] Kirca@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

"pretty phones over privacy" is a wild take ngl

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago

All phones look the same