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Sylvain Charlebois discusses the subtle alteration in the nutritional composition of some products as manufacturing costs soar in the industry.

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[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why does it always have to be the consumer’s job to watch out for this crap? It’s exhausting going through everything looking for allergens, imagine doing so just to make sure the product you’ve been buying for years hasn’t changed to lower quality without warning.

Better solution - require that products have a front label stating their recipe has changed, and including a list of changes to it on the back. Quicker reference, easy as hell to tell when something changed.

Consumer protection really needs to be more robust. We shouldn’t let these companies have all the power to mess with our bodies on a whim without warning.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Especially when they have the money and ability to perfectly read the limits of public attention, or necessary severity of distress before drastic reaction. The general public are too focused on surviving and living to compete with companies who focus entire groups and technologies into finding people's blind spots and weaknesses.

It's a battle of minds and margins, where only one side has resources and power to affect change. Where the fuck are our representatives?

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s why we have government regulations in the first place. Because we don’t have the same level of resources or power to do anything about it that companies do.

We just need way better regulations. And really strong enforcement. Oh and fines that actually matter, like 10% of yearly profits for each infraction, no upper limit. If they can’t be pro-social, fine them into bankruptcy.

[–] smoof@artemis.camp 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You know they will find a loophole like creating a new product and discontinuing the old one.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

That’s fine, because it’s not sneaky changes to an existing product you’ve already vetted. It’s very obvious that it changed if it’s a whole new product.

[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

That still works for me. It's usually allergens I'm looking for so if the product changes I know I have to confirm the new product it's not going to try to kill me like I do with any new product.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Restaurants too. you need 2 subs at Subway to feel full. you can eat an entire pizza at Dominos.

WTF did they do to the bread?

[–] Echo71Niner@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What's the matter? Do you find it displeasing when Subway counts the olives, lettuce pieces, and rotten frozen tomatoes? Why anyone would choose to eat at that filthy Subway store is beyond me. In Toronto, a cold cut sandwich now costs $13 before tip.

[–] Smoogy@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure.

Though tbf sandwiches are the easiest thing to make. Why people are getting something that costs under 4 dollars to make at home in under ten minutes and instead pay to have it made for 13$ and then complain about it but then keep going back is very bizarre to me. You’re paying a buck a minute for someone to slap separate, non cooked ingredients together for you. That’s 60 dollars a minute to just throw pieces of food into another form.
And you’re not even staying at subway to eat it. People get it to go and eat it anywhere else they could bring their home sandwiches to.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Gotta use the app, between bogo's and 6.99 footlongs paying full price is ridiculous.

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[–] zesty@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is encouraging me to eat less food products and focus more on just raw ingredients where there is no ingredients to skimp out on.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

And that’s why they jacked up the price of every vegetable and fruit. A bushel of green options 3 years ago here was $0.79. It’s now $2.49. And they look meagre af.

They have every angle sewn up at this point.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Until you go to Loblaws and find the overpriced overripe and expired produce they try to sell.

[–] jcrm@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

If only we had some kind of organization to protect consumers from harmful corporate practices.

I'm getting so fucking tired of corporations running this country.

[–] Dearche@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

A lot of people I know have noticed this. Not just in typical groceries, but in a lot of food products.

Usually they don't know what's going on, but I've heard plenty of complaints about the taste of things they buy. Even weird ones like one beer tasting like a cheaper brand.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing that always boggles my mind is seeing cheap materials in Canada. This is one of the highest cost of living places on Earth. We should expect that anything involving manual labour will be stupid expensive here... But materials? Basic ingredients? The minimum hourly wage in Canada higher than the average daily wage in a country like India. If raw materials really cost what people charge us, most of the world would suddenly become corpses laying unsheltered in the sun.

If I'm paying you over $20/hr, use the good stuff because the cost of ingredients or materials is going to be a rounding error on the bottom line!

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

WTF are those price? 11$ for cheezwiz? 9$ for jam?

[–] Echo71Niner@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Welcome to canada.

[–] gaydarless@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Corporate CEOs have taken the adage of shooting for the stars way too literally. At this point I believe they are trying to find the maximum possible price point people will pay for their products. Like seemingly everyone else in this country, they want their pound of flesh $$$.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

both non essential products, people should vote with their money.

[–] Echo71Niner@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Canadian government's engagement in the inflation of prices for Canadians is linked to the ownership of stocks in grocery companies, like Loblaws, by numerous Canadian politicians – a verifiable fact.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

as manufacturing costs soar

Yeah fucking right. More like "as corporations begin running out of valid strategies for increasing profit margins literally every quarter for eternity". Those companies are making record profits. Hell, they probably used some of those record profits to pay for that title.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have words for this already. Corporate greed, price gouging and lying come to mind. No need to dress it up as an inflation thing. X-flation is the x-gate of the 2020s

[–] EhForumUser@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Normally corporate greed is met with "Fuck you. Don't be so greedy. You will accept this [lower] price or else."

Inflation is when that turns into "I know you are being greedy, but that is one stylish hat you are wearing, and for that reason I will gladly accept your [high] price!"