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Quoting the tl;dr in the linked article:

  • Samsung could be stepping up its game by offering seven years of major Android updates for the Galaxy S24 series, and the generous update policy might extend to other Galaxy flagships.

  • The Galaxy S24 series might also introduce charges for AI features like Live Translate and Pixel-like photo editing tools after 2025.

  • There's speculation that users may need to sign in to their Samsung accounts for certain AI functionalities.

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[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 years ago (4 children)

That is not the only big thing of pixels. To me it's the openness. These are, ironically, the best and easiest phones to leave google. Or at least root them without the evergrowing hassles of each iteration of samcraps.

Noone would ever buy a PC if they wouldn't get admin-access and mustn't install Linux or whatever. With phones they managed to keep us out.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 years ago

i always found it funny that the best method of having a privacy focused phone (without having significant tradeoffs like the pinephone) is to buy the phone from the company who violates privacy the worst, and flashing over it.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Noone would ever buy a PC if they wouldn't get admin-access and mustn't install Linux or whatever. With phones they managed to keep us out.

Realistically this only forms a tiny part of the population though, that's pretty much the only reason why they've been able to keep people out.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

If only a tiny part of people care at all, why even make it sooooo complicated and change every damn update? Let people that WANT control, have control. The others don't care anyway and are scared enough by a "are you REALLY REALLY REALLY sure you know what you're doing here?"-security-question.

I don't pay 1000,- for a phone that isn't mine, and I hate that this has become the default.

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

On the one hand, I could see bad actors taking advantage of easily rooted/unlocked systems. Maleficent resellers could also take advantage.

Definitely give me the warnings and let me know what could happen, but let me unlock it and own it completely.

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[–] Osiris@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Samsung could easily win me over if their bootloader was unlock able.
Edit: Apparently it's just US variants that can't be unlocked

[–] Gallardo994@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well, bootloader unlock toggle in developer options and fastboot eom unlock are available, am I missing something?

[–] Byter@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)
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[–] jzentgg@mastodon.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@Gallardo994 @Osiris you can’t if you have Samsung with Snapdragon

[–] Gallardo994@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

I have Snapdragon variant of S23U (UAE version) and the bootloader is unlockable, are you sure it's snapdragon specific and not just US-specific, or carrier-specific?

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

wdym, you just go to dev options and allow it, then reboot and do fastboot unlock.
press power button a couple of times (THIS WILL TRIP KNOX E-FUSE PERMANENTLY WITHOUT ANY WAY TO RECOVER), wait for data to be erased and boom it's unlocked

[–] jose1324@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago
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[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago

To talk about the article instead of ranting on about niche wants:

  • 7 years of updates would be really good. Given how mature the hardware is nowadays, I can see a phone doing 7 years, save for the battery. Will Samsung be able to keep batteries in production?
  • I'm less sold on the AI things, I guess that's the buzzword now. AI AI AI everywhere. Also the two features mentioned are already in Google products, and I'd rather use those if I have to, unless Samsung pulls out a surprise and show that they are better at software development than Google is.
[–] Mango@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Is it repairability? Do I get root access to my own personal property? Maybe a headphone jack? How about IR blaster so my missing Roku remote doesn't matter? Can we go so far as a replaceable battery?

Ok I got you. You don't need to add anything you previously took away. Just give me a public apology for trying to make the phone repair industry die as collateral damage in your vendetta against Apple's other screen supplier.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

unless that comes with either a 600-700$ decrease in price or the readdition of a microSD card slot I'm not interested.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

After phone storage got beyond 32GB, I thought I won't need a microSD slot anymore. I was wrong and my 128GB are full again. Downloading shows and music in high quality needs quite a bit of storage, not to mention videos. As if to make matters worse, the OS takes up more storage than my first two phones had at all.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

I never understood why anybody wouldn't need SD access... There's no way to have a reliable backup location in the event you can't reach the internet for whatever reason.

[–] Merlin404@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Do you need all that on the phone?

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

for myself I have about 250 gigs of photo/video from my camera since I use it a lot. then about 50 gigs of apps, the lack of an SD card slot is my exclusive reason that I never upgraded from my s20 to newer models. It's also why I've decided to ditch Samsung when my phone finally dies. I just have yet to find a decent alternative that works in my area

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[–] Gallardo994@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Miss me with that AI bullshit, just make the screen completely flat on S24U and I'll be more than happy.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Please. Who is interested in the curve anymore? I know they just do it for the people in the store.

[–] Dangy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I like the edge curve on my S9+ and Note 20U. Makes the bezels feel smaller and makes for a smoother swipe finger-feel.

But if I could trade that for removable battery/storage/repairability I would.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

I guess I always use a case so for me it just feels like anothervpkace for dust to settle.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago

Wish granted, it is completely flat

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Will they be bringing SD support back? I don't get how people can use phones without SD support...

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Which is funny because I don't get why people want it. Unless you're shooting a whole bunch of 4K video, i have no idea why it's needed.

[–] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Here are a few examples of why someone would want it:

Not everyone lives in areas with great wireless connections.

Some are also limited to how much data they can use. So most store their music/movies/pictures on the local SD drive because they don't use cloud storage.

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[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Full disclosure: I didn't read the article and only read the bulletin points. However, that last point really convinced me leave Scamsung. When I got my current S21 Ultra, I was bummed to find out that I couldn't root it. I'm about to buy a Pixel 7 Pro and never look back.

7 years of updates is the tour of competition I like to see

Nickle and diming “AI” features isn’t.

[–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hope someone releases a build of LineageOS or any AOSP based custom ROM for the s23 series.

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[–] ianovic69@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I mean, just have 65W+ charging. It's the single biggest feature that neither offers.

It's as if the whole world is split between those who could not live without it and those who haven't yet experience it.

I was at an airport recently where my flight was delayed a few hours. There were so many anxious people waiting to use plug sockets, the fear of a dead battery making the atmosphere tense everywhere, you could almost smell it.

I waited for the queues to form when the flight was called to board and eventually a plug socket near my seat in the bar became free. 20% to 80% in 15 minutes, onto the plane and sorted.

Google, Samsung & Apple are useless for me until they have that.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wouldn't a power bank solve that issue? So far the airports I've been to usually have the power sockets completely hogged so I don't even count on the chance that one is free. I usually bring along a power bank that gets me through 2-3 full charges of my phone.

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[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or. https://www.ossia.com/cota

This is the future.

You don't need 100% battery. You need a battery that doesn't go flat.

Fast charging just buggers the battery. Too much heat isn't great

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (24 children)

With a wireless product like that you're probably not even going to get enough power to charge your phone. Maybe sustain it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDdRVtka0Jg

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