So the GQPedos plan is to use more ethanol, something they've been whining about for decades. Meanwhile, the Dems are trying to cut the (hasn't been inflation adjusted in 30 years) gas tax to further screw over the future AND help their opponents in an election year. USA! USA! USA!
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Yea dilution will also destroy our gas engines and force people int buying pedo elons teslas
Yeah, in the EU there's a law that petrol has to be 10% non-fossil energy for 95 and 5% for 98 IIRC. Now, most stations skirt by it by producing "green" natural gas or just buying clean energy certificates or whatever it is they do, but when the law came out, there was a big deal because it turns out a lot of older cars aren't cleared for E10. I imagine even fewer are for E15.
It's not so much that it'd kill the engine. That's unlikely to happen for MOST engines. What it will do is destroy the fuel hoses. And if you have a stupid early direct injection petrol engine with a membrane based high pressure fuel pump (fuck you, GM! I think a few others used that design too though), that pump's not gonna like ethanol. If the high pressure fuel pump fails and your engine runs lean, that might indeed kill an engine though.
If America was a person on a raft dying of thirst then we're at the part where they start gulping down ocean water.
MAGA started drinking the ocean water a long time ago because woke lib science told them it was dangerous.
"dumb libruls what u think gatoraids is? it be same thing huh huh"
Nah, straight to the piss drinking stage, they wouldn't drink ocean water, fish fucked there.
And yeah, half of them were already all about the aged urine rubs, cause not-a-doctor told them so.
This also increases pollution
This is stupid. You have to use so much fucking gas to farm those fields. It just adds to the load.
Don't they usually use diesel?
Which still comes from oil and is even more expensive than petrol right now since the demand on it is even less elastic.
And you simply end up buying more gas because it's less efficient if your car doesn't take it. So demand will actually increase. Which makes sense when you realize whose in charge.
How about all those people who paid extra for the cars that burn E85... To get less mpg
Financial literacy is very not common in government... Even less so with the population
To be fair the idea there is that with the extensive corn subsidies, E85 should be significantly cheaper than pure fossil fuel.
Issue is, even with subsidies, ethanol costs a bunch of money to produce. Farming costs go up too when diesel goes up.
Ethanol is cheaper then petrol. The prices schould go down with more mixing in.
It should, but the price of ethanol also goes up when fuel prices do. Because it costs fuel to produce ethanol. Not a huge savings by any means.
But the ratio for the price change is not 1:1.
Prices will increase with increased demand.
Fucking assholes.
Water down the gas, then contaminate the water with in a AI data center. Art of the deal! We will be so much winning you might get tried of all the winner! 🫲🍊🫱
I think you mean
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If only AI data centres had to pay $5 a gallon for gasoline to power their equipment and we could use free clean water to power our vehicles.
Theyre going to use distilled water so it’s ok.
Real benefit: Combustion motor life cycle shortened enhancing planned obsolescence for manufacturer product cycles and future sales. Diluted gas is less efficient and despite paying less you’re actually paying more both near and long term. So much winning.
I drive a 2018 wrx with a very modest etune. It's tuned for longevity as it's not even an hp gain. This will be difficult to run in my car.
Why? It raises the octane, so you can run more boost easily. It just requires more fuel delivery because it has lower energy density. Are you near injector or fuel pump flow limits?
Fortunately, us Americans suck at math. A consequence of our “world class” public education.
20th percentile, surely
Wut?
Why would you want a 1/3 pounder when you can have 1/4 pounder
Republicans vote to hide their fuckup at a cost to the American people
Again
However, while the E15 rollout can lower prices, ethanol does contains less energy than gasoline, so eventually with E15, a driver will end up burning more fuel for the same amount of distance, albeit fuel which is slightly cheaper than standard gasoline.
MAGAs are dumb enough to think they're getting some kind of deal
I’m also concerned a lot of them will drink it.
"I used to only fit $50 of gas in my truck, now I can fit $100. Lol checkmate libs"
Ethanol also rots the internal works of your vehicle so vehicles will disintegrate and people will be forced to buy new vehicles in 2027+ which will all have mandatory big brother spyware.
Most vehicles made past about 2004 are all ethanol safe up to maybe E20. You ideally shouldn't, but e15 won't ruin them.
Anything older though... God have mercy on your soul.
Those '90s civics still puttering around finally gonna get put in the grave.
They'd probably just go through a fuel pump and a fresh filter and then be fine lol.
Dude you could run those things off dirty vegetable oil and they'd still go. The only things more indestructible than a '90s Civic is a Corolla from any year.
Did the US get diesel Civics? That would be surprising to me. Petrol engines don't really run off veggie oil AFAIK. But really, the main thing E15 is going to cause is fuel leaks, which aren't impossible to fix by any means.
However, as for
The only things more indestructible than a '90s Civic is a Corolla from any year.
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree because those things barely exist anymore on the roads here where they salt the roads. The tech is strong, the chassis is not. I don't know when the Japanese figured out galvanization, but as of the mid 00s, they still had issues (not just a single make or model either. Mazda was the worst, but Toyota and Honda still rust). I haven't really inspected any newer Japanese cars. I think Toyota did something better with Lexus branded vehicles, as those tend to have less rust... Or perhaps the owners just took better care of the more expensive vehicles.
Or a Hilux. Or a 90s Nokia.
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They'll do this but refuse to support renewable energy
Well yeah, their entire lives have been spent sucking oil dick, their entire foundation of their wealth is tied up in oil, and even though they're rich enough to pivot entirely and never feel a difference in their lives, they're stuck in the sunk cost mentality.
It's too risky to invest in a brand new industry that's on shaky legs. Never mind that it stopped being a "new" industry decades ago and has proven it will do quite well, and is thriving. They stopped paying attention to real life many many decades ago. As far as they are concerned, they didn't have to do any sort of personal growth, so they are woefully out of touch with reality.
Oil is what was there when they (or their parents they inherited wealth from) were kids, so obviously they have to dig their heels in to keep oil from flopping. Anything else is secondary.
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