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    It's hacker time (sh.itjust.works)
    submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by Lisk91@sh.itjust.works to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
     

    backup config files

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    [–] jakemehoff11@sh.itjust.works 121 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Bonus points for using the mouse to copy/paste

    [–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 68 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Only way to do it. everyone knows ctrl-c angers the terminal daemons.

    [–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 62 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    CTRL+shift+[c/v], my beloved

    [–] albbi@piefed.ca 25 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Such an annoying kludge to make a common operation work.

    [–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 43 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    My hot take: cross-application or system-wide shortcuts like copy/paste should all be controlled with the Super/Meta key. Looking hard at you, alt-F4.

    App developers, you get your pick of Shift, Ctrl, and Alt modifiers. Super/Meta is for the OS only.

    [–] brisk@aussie.zone 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Super is for my window manager.

    Which I guess is kind of where copy paste live so I'm on board, barring semantic nitpicks

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    [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Personally, I think it was quite rude of all of those applications to make the standard "break" command mean "copy."

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Control commands are older than the shortcuts for cut copy paste though.

    [–] albbi@piefed.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I got pretty used to CTRL-INS and Shift-INS for copy and paste. I don't know if those even still work though.

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    [–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

    I guess I'm so used to it at this point that I just add the shift automatically and don't really consider it annoying

    Such an annoying kludge to make a common operation work.

    That describes nearly everything in software, doesn't itπŸ˜…

    [–] toynbee@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    See, I prefer middle click.

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    [–] DigDoug@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    The true LinuxMan uses middle-mouse click to paste.

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    A truetrue LinuxUser uses the alternative clipboard instead.

    [–] Rubanski@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    You know Ctrl+z/x/c right? Now check shift+insert, shift+delete, Ctrl+insert.

    Uhh interesting!

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    [–] gurty@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

    Watches update run in terminal and nods sagely as if understanding it all

    [–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (4 children)
    [–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    Let's be reasonable: We were all at some point at the stage where doing anything at all in the terminal made us feel like a god.

    [–] bryndos@fedia.io 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    It's weird to have grown up with things like bbc micro and MS-DOS and see how alien the terminal is to people who didn't.

    Back then CLIs were all over, even like library catalog terminals, were CLI. TBF some still had card indexes though.

    At university everyone had to ssh in to the email server from whatever tty client even on windows (nt4/nt5/98/2k/mackintosh PCs).

    You definitely didn't feel like any hacker. The hacker level thing was to successfully connect via GUI mail client and actually have your emails update and sync properly - very few bothered.

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    [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 29 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Until your shit got all fucked up because you added a third party repository. And then you have to manually remove lock files and fix the pkg database and mess with .conf files and manually uninstall specific versions of dependent packages, and then manually re-enable some remote repo.

    Then you actually kind of do feel like a hacker.

    Until you’ve done it like 10 different times, then you are just annoyed. Still a better love story than Twilight.

    [–] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    You copy paste the command.

    $ sudo apt update
    -bash: sudo: command not found
    $
    

    Your distro doesn't set up/install sudo by default, so your first task is installing sudo, then understanding /etc/sudoers syntax and understanding why the command to atomically replace /etc/sudoers is visudo and why on a multiuser system there's value to atomic replacement. In the meantime, you probably learn about su and maybe, if your distro has disabled them, how to enable switching to the kernel virtual consoles on tty1 through tty7 so that in the meantime, you can do things as root while staying logged in. Also, you're going to learn about environment variables, so as to set EDITOR, and where your shell config files live, what a login shell is, and in what shells ~/.bash_profile, ~/.profile, and ~/.bashrc run. Also, you first try running visudo as a regular user, but your distro places visudo in /usr/sbin instead of /usr/bin, so you can't figure out why it's not installed and are going to learn about the FHS and mlocate and updatedb so that you can find /usr/sbin/visudo and dpkg -S so that you can figure out which package it's in and confirm that it's actually installed and learn about PATH.

    [–] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

    *newbie tries to comprehend*
    *head explodes*

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    [–] daggermoon@piefed.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    We all have to start somewhere. I remember when that was me.

    [–] Riverside@reddthat.com 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I remember that too... Then I moved on to Linux Mint and I use a GUI for my updates

    [–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    amen to that LMDE and use the GUI here

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    When i tell claude to change the filenames from spelled out dates to hyphenated dates XD

    [–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

    Are you SURE that is the first command new users type? I remember adding neofetch to my .bashrc (infact, I might don't again)

    [–] M33@piefed.world 3 points 2 days ago

    Bitch please: curl install.sh | bash -

    [–] juipeltje@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Me when i fork dwl just to add a few patches that i did not create myself, just so i can make my own package for it.

    "You know, i'm something of a developer myself."

    [–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago

    $ hollywood

    [–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    Even better the SECOND time you do it with the up arrow.

    You know. Just your standard Hacker, hackin'.

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    [–] normalentrance@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Start btop in another full screen terminal, and then run apt update. Then you're fully in the matrix.

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    [–] bluey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago
    [–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

    Wait until you get on the sudo apt upgrade -U -y train

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