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[–] kivihiili@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

public works projects are interesting. while the citizens of a municipality should have a say, in this situation business owners perceive an advantage to this change and are willing to more aggressively lobby for it than those citizens. this does not exactly even mean it will truly advantage them, perhaps the bike traffic does help their business more than the parking (this is the case where we live). or perhaps they are right. regardless, the typical bicyclist will have much less motivation to voice their opinion(s), as they can be encouraged to just take another route or contend with the traffic, as annoying and dangerous as it is. advocating for this stuff often requires going to meeting halls and so forth, which takes time, social effort, and the courage to disagree with very motivated business people!

still, if you want stuff to change where you live, do go to your city/county/other local meetings relating to the problems you want to provide your perspective on. it's definitely some effort, frequently a lot of it! but its often not a case of "someone will voice this opinion in the meeting, so i don't gotta go", and you attending really can make a difference. different municipalities of course have their own attitudes. maybe they won't listen to you at all, or maybe the meeting has been widely advertised and many are attending it!

regarding this proposition in particular, what we will say is that where we live, the expenses this project would result in could equate in value to the funds that our city's fareless and very awesome bus transit system uses to maintain their fleet over the course of years! of course it's not as simple as that, but 1.2 million dollars is still a lot of dollars.

p.s.: we bicycle everywhere if we aren't walking or taking the bus. where we live there is one of these three lane downtown roads. it sucks. the other downtown areas are a lot better but three lanes is very uncomfortable to bike through. please support your local bicycle infrastructure!

[–] it_wasnt_arson@awful.systems 2 points 7 hours ago

Who cares about whether it'll benefit the business, the business owners want a place to park their car out front of their workplace, and it doesn't matter who pays, how much, or if it's in blood.

[–] gary215@thelemmy.club 6 points 19 hours ago

Obviously it's NOT a protected bike lane.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

Can't have a free bike lane when the city can charge 5.00 per hour for 40 spaces.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 60 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Three lanes of traffic thundering by is something I really enjoy experiencing when I’m visiting shops in the downtown area. The experience of reversing out of angled parking back into traffic is essential for me to consider shopping there!

It’s unfortunate.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 6 points 20 hours ago

Even Portland just put in a bunch of angled parking on Broadway on the east side. Granted it was a consolation in order to put in a semi-protected bike lane across the street and lower the road's speed limit, but good god is backing out blind into multiple lanes of through traffic an atrocious idea. There's no rationalizing it IMO.

[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

Good old methford.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 days ago (41 children)

So what I'm hearing is someone needs to start painting a bike lane across the lanes, placing large bike lane stickers on every car, and the start smashing headlights and windows.

It's fair, they destroyed something someone else relies on. Any destruction of mobility for disabled or less motive people is a personal attack on them, and deserving of defense.

Fun anecdote: my ow. City removed a bike lane only to add it back two years later. Cars that parked along the road where the lane was would often be vandalized, sometimes with a bike lane indicator drawnon the car. I don't think anyone ever caught the people doing it, but enough people were pushing for returning the lane (and someone on city council wanting more bike lanes) but it finally came back, unprotected and needing to "share the road" for anyone who just feels like driving in the lane meant for busses to pick people up.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 15 points 1 day ago

Many people only learn when something bad happens to them. Poor empathy and primitive moral reasoning.

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[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Thank God, this is wonderful news! Finally, we can harness the power of 40 parked cars to transport people.

/s, if it's needed

Medford is both the hottest place and coldest place I've ever been to, they have a lovely 3 days in the spring and fall though.

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