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[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 5 points 42 minutes ago

IMHO: unanimity belongs in the bin. The bloc has been held hostage by not even a country, but a single person. The system is dead easy to abuse, as the Russians or Americans, you only need to buy one politician to sabotage the entire Union.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 9 minutes ago
[–] timestatic@feddit.org 9 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

It would be a very unfair two-tiered system if the new states didn't get Vetos but the old ones kept them. Thats like the entire problem with the UNSC. We should just abolish Vetos like this in its entirety

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 1 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

United nations space command?

[–] Badabinski@kbin.earth 1 points 18 minutes ago

Security Council.

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Maybe put up a 15y memorandum before they become fully voting members with access to vetoes? Get the hang of it, feel each other up. Get assets intertwined. Stuff like that :)

[–] stoicEuropean@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Veto rights only ever make sense if your group consists of 2-8 people. The larger the group, the more dangerous do veto rights become.

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, it also means an extra reason for us Norwegians not to join.

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Not the strongest argument when you basically chose to be a defacto non voting member already.

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 1 points 55 minutes ago

Yeah, which means it would be functionally similar - but cheaper and much less sovereignty.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I mean you guys do you. Through the European Market access you guys have to still follow a bunch of things we decide without getting a word in it so it might not be an awful idea.

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 1 points 53 minutes ago

Actually it's our politicians who don't reject new motions. The popular parties famously want to join, but don't get to because it has to be decided by popular vote.

They could technically veto now, but refuse to. Another coalition could do something different. But joining would take the option off the table entirely.

[–] geissi@feddit.org 0 points 1 hour ago

I don’t quite understand how this is supposed to work.

AFAIK there is technically no β€˜veto’ that you can just deny individual members. Certain policy decisions require unanimity.
Seems like they’d need to redraw the contracts and change how voting works.