Sounds like Google will never rest then, because that shit will never be in my home.
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Google's gonna be sleep deprived.
google like MS feeling the pressure of the AI bursting, trying to stave off thier decline with pushing AI into everything like MS is trying to do.
Ugh. Even if I wanted this product, their track record on long term product support has erased my trust. They never fixed connectivity for the Chromecast and now they've discontinued it. Why am I gonna buy something that breaks down or gets an expensive subscription in a couple of years.
Plus, if I post a video their stakeholders don't like on YouTube I risk getting locked out of every Google service including Gemini, all by automated processes and with no way to even talk to a human to explain my case. They are judge, jury and executioner within their ecosystem.
Yeah - they've abandoned so many products that I really do not want another new Google product in my life that will be abandoned in the future. And their track record with banning accounts for no reason while providing no support at all doesn't help
Gonna be a long fucking night then.
So, Google is desperately trying to find customers for its AI.
sounds like what MS is trying to do. they cant keep peddling AI forever, the dues will come eventually. right now they hype is done on 2 fronts, through conventions and through trying to push it into everything, and peddling it to gov't for the promise of SURVEILLANCE tech.
Sometimes I wonder how much this is about a Top Down holistic strategy, or simply that every feature team in the org is adding "AI" stuff just to react to the pressure.
Still not in my home 🤣
Definitely the latter. I unfortunately use a lot of Google services and they are pushing AI integration in everything and making it very hard to opt out or they keep pesting you to enable it.
Probably the latter
I mean, not my home.
Highly recommend people leave Google services. Use Ente to store photos. Proton for email. DuckDuckGo or Ecosia for search. Organic Maps for directions. FreeTube or yewtu.be for videos. Venice AI as your advanced chatbot. Google needs to be broken up and regulated.
Never heard of Venice AI, asked it what it does different, one of the things it said was:
I don't need to be politically correct or "woke" in my responses
Fuck that shit
Other options:
- Tuta for email
- CoMaps for maps and directions on your phone
- Nextcloud for self hosted cloud and pictures
- ublock origin and sponsor block to browse YT in a non chromium browser.
Couple of recommended changes if you are self hosting:
- Immich vs Ente. The feature set better mirrors Google's when self hosting.
- OpenWebUI with local models instead of Venice AI - Heard some bad things about Venice's "anti-woke" system prompt.
I'm slowly working on getting away from Google, but unfortunately, Organic Maps doesn't offer public transit directions/schedules in my region, and since I don't have a car, that's like 80% of what I use Google Maps for.
Check out the apps from your local public transit authority. In my region what Google offers in regard to public transit is utter trash and the "official" apps are having the correct shedule
never heard of Organic Maps. It’s better than CoMaps?
CoMaps is the less suspicious fork. Organic was made by two shady dudes from Russia and Belarus.
Just wait a year or two and Google will kill Gemini on their own.
Depends how fast MS does it first. thier AI VIDEO editor mustve been very expensive, since i havnt seen those videos anymore.
Well I guess Google will have a hard time resting then because it is nowhere in my home.
Let them be tired then.
I don't care how much Google pushes Gemini. I trust any chinese company more
Anyone who didn't learn their lesson from the Nest debacle is a fool. I would never let another Google device into my home.
What happened with Nest?
They killed off their first and second gen thermostats for no good reason.
They also sold off their smoke detector business.
Amongst all the other things they’ve killed.
will pixel be next, enshittified through gemini that nobody wants it anymore.
https://9to5google.com/2023/05/07/google-failing-nest/
https://talk.tidbits.com/t/google-kills-off-nest-security-ecosystem/26216
https://www.howtogeek.com/884735/google-is-shutting-down-some-old-nest-devices-and-services/
Seems like every year or so Google messes with it and fucks over customers in the process.
classic google.
They're going to kill their name brand of "googling" things
That seems to have already happened. My kids and their gaggle of teenage friends never utter the name of that company that I've heard. The phrase "search it up" is common.
I've been trying to correct myself every time I want to say "google it" to "look it up" or "search it", it's a bit of an uphill battle since I've been saying google it for years but I'll get there.
"Hey Co-Pilot, remove Gemini"
"Hey Gemini, remove Co-Pilot"
Let them fight it out. 😉
will it work if you ask it to remove itself.
The HomeAssistant ecosystem is a lot neater, it lets you do what you want without billionaires screwing with your life.
I think alot of folks have been going the other direction considering it doesn't work nearly as well as the old assistant. When they pushed the new shit to the Google home devices and everything stopped working we just stopped using it and have no desire to go back.
They’re messing with Gmail, Google Sheets and Calendar a bit much for my comfort, my business relies on these to work with no change to any part of the product and perfectly. Adding non deterministic tools to these is them walking on a tight rope as I won’t be dealing with fallout from the mistakes and issues caused due to Google spiking unsolicited non opt out “features” to my business workflow.
May they never rest.
But it is so bad. I don’t understand how with all the data they have about everyone their Gemini integrations in their products suck so much. Can’t make a proper task from the email list. Can’t find docs related to meetings. It is all literally in their systems.
Their product managers are so shortsighted. Jam half-assed stuff and pat themselves on the back.
I know people will probably disagree but I like the fact that Apple has stepped back on AI and slowed down. I suspect once they finally release something. It may actually be useful and probably opt-in/out. Whether the op-out is actually real is another debate.
ain't no fucking google or gemini (except the gemini protocol, which is super cool) coming to my home
As they say, "no rest for the wicked."
