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[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 167 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

Ah yes, Cortana and Copilot both suck, but surely third time's the charm. And when Scout is, inevitably, unpopular as well? We'll see what they call number four.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 month ago (6 children)

You forgot clippy, but everyone forgets about clippy unless it's in this exact context. Or it's Norfolk wizard game.

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago

I can't believe I forgot Clippy...

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Is there any fundamental difference between Copilot and Scout, or is it just a straight up rebranding?

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My impression is that scout is specifically going to be an agentic ai. Agentic ai platforms are supposedly a little more competent than chatbots, but still subject to the same llm chicanery and enormous energy usage.

It's hard to compare against copilot because MS has called a ton of distinct things copilot (see the diagram below).

diagram of different MS products called copilot

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

You forgot they called it Bing in the middle too

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[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 93 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think you mean to say: "microslop can slop off"

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Neon_Carnivore@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 month ago (1 children)

do you really wanna be admitting that addiction is your goal?

A $6 Million Jury Verdict Ruled Social Media Is Addictive.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/anishasircar/2026/03/30/a-6-million-jury-verdict-ruled-social-media-is-addictive-now-what/

[–] uninvitedguest@piefed.ca 65 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That kind of fine is a pittance.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago

true. but this one wasn't a class action, either.. just one plaintiff.

[–] kablez@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My non Linux savvy spouse is currently dual booting Linux Mint because Windows has become so frustrating to use.

Mint isn't perfect. We've run into a few bugs and shortcomings. But there's a big difference between dealing with genuine issues in an OS and using one that feels actively hostile and designed to exploit the user.

If both experiences can be frustrating, why choose the one that's frustrating by design (unless you absolutely have to) ?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 16 points 1 month ago (12 children)

I've used Linux for a decade now and windows is so much more buggy and shortcoming. Including new bugs.

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[–] stretch2m@infosec.pub 53 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I will never EVER give an AI agency over any of my personal accounts.

[–] KillerWhale@orcas.enjoying.yachts 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are not the target audience.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 41 points 1 month ago

Oh we're the target, just not the customer.

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[–] magnue@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Instead they made me addicted to Linux.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yeah every time I get on my laptop it's a little more unrecognisable and unusable to me. Will be getting in Linux as soon as I get a chance.

[–] moobythegoldensock@infosec.pub 10 points 1 month ago (7 children)

What’s stopping you so far?

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Time more than anything, im only on it about 2 hours once a month

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[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

adding new "features"

look inside

enshittification

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Gotta produce dopamine for that to happen. Not cortisol.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If they want people addicted to an AI, it's going to have to be a lot better than fucking Copilot.

As slop generators go, it's about the sloppiest.

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[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 23 points 1 month ago

We're going to MAKE people ADDICTED by ~~making a REALLY Good Product!~~ ~~SOLVING annoying Problems!~~ ~~TREATING Customers respectfully!~~ FORCING ourselves Onto people like Donald Trump on Little Girls!

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Did they try making it good?

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 13 points 1 month ago

That's the beauty of it (from their viewpoint), they don't have to make it good, just unavoidable.

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Yeah, we know

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 17 points 1 month ago

Have they tried making it better, I feel like I'm more likely to become addicted to it if it was good.

Hahahaha suck it, Microslop. I look forward to your Chapter 11 filing.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This strategy worked so well for Bing

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[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Duh. I wouldn't have called it "addiction", but dependency was clearly the goal, otherwise they wouldn't take away classical search.

I thought that was obvious from the start.

[–] Aneorthisio@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

Create a captive audience through monopoly or near monopoly on a given market, then charge them more for a worse version of the product, reducing costs and maximizing profits, it's always been the goal with corporate capitalism, look at the whole Copilot and GitHub situation right now.

[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No shit, Sherlock.
And people would actually happily get addicted to an AI assistant which is reliable, safe, capable, kind, and fast.
They really should try making a great product. Then they don't need any tricks. People love great products.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

BREAKING - Companies want customers to get addicted to their products!!!1

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

I can't fault them for this business plan. It has worked for the opioid business professionals time and time again, for centuries!

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Hold on let me put on my surprised look

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 10 points 1 month ago

Legitimately most modern games or all of social media.

[–] Solrac@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Oh they're making me addicted alright. I can't stop installing Linux on things. Its like a new vice for my devices

[–] Qzr@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

At least they're honest (internally) about their intentions. Obviously this is also the goal of the other big AI foundries; it either already is or it will be in the future.

Luckily Microsoft is famously bad at this, but Google and perhaps OpenAI will be more successful. We're still in the subsidized honeymoon phase, but this window is closing with the increasing pressure to return profit.

As a skeptic, I'm not worried about myself, but I'm scared for the people who will get addicted and then ruined by full prices or devastated when their mind drug is taken away again.

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[–] nectar45@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago

At this rate I will have to do like Terry Davis and make my OWN minimalistic OS to escape this AI plague.

[–] FE80@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago
[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

That shit should set off alarm bells of all regulators… but we elect people who don’t give a fuck so…

[–] dracs@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago
[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Explains why they want you to think it's also a person.

Uhh yeah thats the long term profit concept of LLMs, force them onto people for free until they cant live without them, then jack up the price. Its been pretty obvious...

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Only Scout believed in himself.

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