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What's wrong with the world map in Fallout 4? (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 weeks ago by Trudov@lemmy.world to c/fallout@lemmy.world
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Hey everyone, I noticed some weird things on the world map in Fallout 4 that completely contradict the lore:

  • US and Canada: Why are they still divided by a border? According to the lore, the US fully annexed Canada in 2076 after years of occupation.

  • USSR vs. Russia/CIS: Why do we see the modern borders of the Russian Federation and CIS countries instead of the Soviet Union? In the Fallout universe, the USSR never dissolved and lasted until the Great War of 2077.

  • The Mediterranean Sea: And most importantly, what happened to the Mediterranean? It's filled with the same green color as the land, just like the Black, Caspian, and Baltic seas. Could the Atlantropa project have been implemented in the Fallout timeline?

Is there an in-game lore explanation for this? Or is it just lazy developers?

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[–] mcz@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago

Actual lore explanation:

they flood filled it

[–] dabu@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I am 100℅ sure nobody gave a thought, they just put the first sepia map on there

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There is a weird pair of islands to the bottom right of Australia.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

New Zealand?

[–] thenoirwolfess@fedinsfw.app 6 points 3 weeks ago

Before looking it up, I could excuse that a few land masses resurfaced after the ocean got cooked a little

[–] scholar@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

It's possible that whoever owned this map hadn't updated it after Canada was annexed. The rest is more difficult to explain away.

[–] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree with others that this probably just laziness on Bethesda’s part.

But to give some benefit of the doubt, where did you find this map? Where it is located, in game, can give some information on that. Like, if this was in some very prewar bunker, then maybe we can give some explanation like this is before the US annexation, for example.

[–] Trudov@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Federal Surveillance Center K-21B

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Federal_Surveillance_Center_K-21B

The Brotherhood of Steel are such assholes. I'm exploring this bunker, finally reach the bottom, and find a terminal to look up the lore and history of this place, only to see... 'DATA EXPUNGED. Ad Victoriam.'

[–] rowinxavier@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Some things I have noticed.

It looks like the Red Sea is also filled in.

It appears that other areas at the north of Europe have had some areas filled.

Sri Lanka now appears to have a land bridge to India.

Lake Victoria and Lake Malawi are both also filled in.

Sudan and South Sudan are just one country, which makes sense given that change was only recognised in 2011.

[–] albbi@piefed.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Great Lakes? No. Independent states? Yes.

[–] Klear@piefed.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

It's because Bethesda doesn't give a crap about Fallout, the whole game is basically a post-apocalyptic theme park.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There is no baltic sea

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 11 points 3 weeks ago

And the Mediterranean has become ... terrainean.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There is though. It has merely shrunk.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

RIP Hawai'i.

[–] 5oap10116@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

They permanently closed the Strait of Hormuz for shipping traffic