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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/47886949

Mormon leaders, military veterans and elected officials reacted with anger to a new Department of Defense policy that does not consider The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to be a Christian religion as part of a wider effort to cut down the U.S. military’s list of recognized faiths.

“The Pentagon’s decision to list The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints apart from other Christian faiths is wrong and needs to be corrected,” Republican Rep. Mike Kennedy, of heavily Mormon Utah, wrote on X on Sunday.

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 18 points 3 hours ago

Have the day you voted for

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

On the one hand, as an Ex-Mormon, LOL.

On the other, maybe it helps depress gop voter turnout and makes sure the Democrat wins their new district in central Salt Lake City. And maybe MAGA finds Utah is a lot less inclined to run through walls for them in 2028. Nobody does “stoically endure oppression, real or perceived” quite like Mormons.

The way DoD did this is also classic Bible thumper Protestant shit, right out of a Chick tract. Mormons are absolutely not Nicene Christians, but they profess to follow Jesus of Nazareth, so if they want the gummint to lump them in with the Christians, it takes a special kind of stupid and short-sighted religious pedant not to humor them.

[–] spencerwi@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Mormons are absolutely not Nicene Christians, but they profess to follow Jesus of Nazareth,

Is a bit like

Naturopaths are absolutely not germ-theory doctors, but they profess to practice wellness and healing,

as a way to shoehorn Brenda with the essential oils into the category of "doctor". At the point where you've denied one of the few definitional traits of the category, you have to admit you don't fit into it anymore, you can't just pretend the definition doesn't actually exist. It's like being a lawyer who doesn't deal with legal matters, but they have a bunch of ideas their college roommate came up with about how to run a country while he was high before dropping out of the first semester of law school.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 8 points 3 hours ago

Have a little faith in Whiskey Pete. He’s exactly the kind of stupid and short-sighted religious pedant you’re looking for.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 31 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Why the fuck is the military of a country, especially one with supposedly separated church and state, maintaining an official list of religions??? Why is the defense secretary choosing religions???

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 27 points 4 hours ago

Normally it's so the armed forces can provide access to religious services as needed, and accommodate funeral rites if necessary. But just as with most other things this administration uses it for discrimination.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago

Chaplains. The original chaplains were added to Roman military and were the official state religion. They're been a staple of warfare since. Their official role is to serve as spiritual and moral support, like a therapist or counselor (particularly before those professions existed). It serves the soldier to have council in difficult times, it serves the state as a proper pep talk helps keeps desertion rates down (with a whole fun new layer of soft power to make the soldier more dedicated to the craft), and it gives the chaplain a fulfilling job.

In America, we have at times pretended that religious diversity is a virtue. Chaplains are less effective if the soldier cannot believe the chaplain shares their values. Thus to keep the tool effective, chaplains and soldiers register their faith beliefs, so that when crisis comes the leaders can pair chaplains in the most effective ways. Add a touch of bureaucracy and you get a list of codes and their associated faiths.

My understanding is that for a long time the list had six options, but in … 2016(?) they decided to get comprehensive and basically tried to document any spiritual/belief structure that a soldier could have. They got ~211. Even at peak usage, there were a good dozen options on the books that didn't have any active practitioners in the military.

Of course, with the current MAGA in charge, all that diversity and inclusion is treated as a waste of taxpayer dollars and thus has to go. Personally, I think chaplain programs should be sunset in favor of said therapists and counselors, but I get why having a lever to shift soldier morality (not constrained by the science underpinning counseling) is simply too useful to let go.

[–] TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And then they came for the mormons.

[–] sixtoe@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I ain't saying shit. Fuck them cultists. I'll see em in the camps.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm just surprised they let insurrectionists into the military.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 4 points 3 hours ago

But are you really?