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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 25 points 16 hours ago

Ok, don't buy Volkswagen. Got it.

Also, don't buy "connected" cars. FFS, if your car features rely on an internet service provided by the manufacturer, you are just begging for these sorts of shenanigans.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 23 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

privacy-conscious drivers

company’s mobile app

Hmmm.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 4 points 17 hours ago

Is there Lemmy r/sipsTea ?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

My car is staying dumb as long as possible it seems, I despise these tricks leeching into every new car these days.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 17 hours ago

Wonder if we can get that Faraday Cage color as an undercoat paint...

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 32 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I said long time ago that EU really needs to focus on opening up the platforms. Force app makers to support de-googled phones. Force car makers to support de-googled phones. You can't become technologically independent if you don't control the platforms.

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

That's the thing tho they don't want that, they want more control not less. That's why countries can make e2e encryption illegal now.

[–] Darcranium@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Also with the most recent update, the halo collar app no longer has access to Google satellite data IF you operate Graphene OS. I suspect Google is the culprit because the folks at Halo have no idea how to fix this bug

Judging by the error message: the map relies on Google Play Services (which, you can definitely install and run on GOS through the Graphene "App Store"). But installing Google bullshit kinda defeats the whole point of running Graphene. You could also revert to an older version of the app (if you had no issue seeing satellite imagery prior to the update).

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

weird. they are using mapbox which has nothing to do with google. maybe support just didn't want to solve your case.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Volkswagen of all people.

After this fuckup: https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2024/fahrplan/talk/Q8ZAV9/

They should be the last ones to deny anyone else using privacy preserving tools.

(Hint the player has multiple audio tracks, there is a dub in English)

[–] amniote@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Germans can't write code. Enigma, dieselgate, audi ev's, my cla 2026 needed 2 days to update MBUX. Why do you think they planned this ? You'll be fine after zthe next update.

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Block it all you want fuckheads. Wont buy a volkswagen ever.

[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

Need to being back the old ones. Make 1981 Dasher Diesels Great Again

[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

FYI: ~~Slate~~ Scout Motors is a subsidiary of Volkswagen.

[–] die444die@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You sure about that? You're bot confusing Slate with Scout are you?

[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 1 points 15 hours ago

Whoopsies, my mistake.

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Well damn, I've just placed a preorder. I'll keep watching to see how it plays out...

[–] OccasionallyFeralya@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

Pretty sure it’s not VW

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why they do this:

After the first three years, Volkswagen is charging ev customers €150/year to see the charge level on the app, remotely start the air conditioning, schedule charge and so on.

Any tinkerer is thinking "well, if I am paying this extortion just to see the charge level on the app, then I want to exfiltrate my data in home assistant or similar, getting better stats and so on"

So they blocked the API with Google play integrity signatures

Now, instead of spending money on engineering ways to block uncertified devices, they could have simply introduced an official API with rate limits and stuff.

The fact that they noticed all those "unauthorized accesses" it's prove that people just want to pay for a lightweight API access, not a 250mb app that takes 4 minutes to remotely start the air conditioning

After all, we're talking for €150/year for accessing the data of a €1 iot sim card using 0.0001€ of compute time. There should be enough margin for that.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

Too bad the people in charge and developers of sensible mind are not the same people

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 2 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Sorry if I ask, what does it mean to remotely start air conditioning?

Do you mean you can start it while you are not in the car? What's the purpose of such a feature?

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

It's a nice quality of life feature, you enter a fresh vehicle instead of scorching hot After being parked for hours in the summer sun. But I would never pay a €150/yr subscription for that, fuck them

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

It's for when it's hot outside, you're leaving a store and you want it to be cool when you get to your car.

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[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

On a hot day, cool the car down before you get in. Same for the inverse of wanting to heat the car up before you get in when it's super cold.

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 116 points 1 day ago (5 children)

All of this leads back to an old rhetorical question I've often asked. Why the fuck isn't the whole entertainment system and car connection just a standard touchscreen and communication protocol?

The fact that I need these proprietary patent-gated apps to use parts of my car, instead of just a driver that could work on any device with the right port, is overtly user-hostile.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because the greed of corporations knows no limit. They sold you the (expensive) hardware, now they want to sell you the (specific, usually compatible but not really, and slightly buggy implementation) software. Can't do that with open specifications.

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