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[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Purchase car abroad then have it imported. How feasible would something like that be?

[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You can't license an imported car for US roads. At least not in any practical way. If you had unlimited funds it is possible, but not really worthwhile.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Confused as ive seen tons of the Kei trucks on US roads with plates

[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

There may be some loopholes I'm unaware of, but I didn't think you could license kei trucks either. I know some people get them for private use though.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Why should I be scared? Bribes being taken and acted on is nothing new. Indeed in today's world its more normal than ever.

[–] sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io 67 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm getting so tired of reading fucking "that should terrify you!" In headlines. We are all sufficiently fucking terrified shut the fuck up.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Just that type of headline that tells you how you should feel period. Thank you headline, I'm now annoyed. It's never any other emotion youre trying to force on me, just irritation or rage. That and the whole 'read that again'. Fuck off.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

Exactly. Just give me the fucking facts and I'll decide how I feel about it.

[–] Denixen@feddit.nu 8 points 22 hours ago

In our reverse world, the more hyperbolic the title is the less worthwhile content the article contains. Use this to filter out content that can be safely (ironically) ignored.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

100% I have enough actually traumatic things happening around me tyvm.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

Start selling Volvo's newest model... The Volvo Polestar

This is proof that you should never bend the knee or try to appease that facist state. Polestar moved production to the US and still got banned. They don't believe in non-zero sum economics, you will always be the loser even when both party's could win.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 116 points 1 day ago (31 children)

Being an American wanting an electric car must be a nightmare!
Not many options, and all of them are too expensive, because competition is stifled by keeping competition out with insane tariffs.

In Europe we are spoiled with choice, lots of European brands with lots of models, and we even have American although we don't want them, but we also have Chinese although they do have an EU import tax, to compensate for the Chinese subsidies.

But several Chinese brands are becoming quite popular, especially BYD and XPeng have become popular here in Denmark.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In Europe we are spoiled with choice

Even more so in Australia, as we have zero tariffs, as the new EU trade agreement removed the small tarrif that was on EI cars, none on Chinese cars.

I have a BYD and charge off solar panels on my roof

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Awesome, we do that too, and haven't felt the increased oil/gas prices at all. 😎

[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 15 points 1 day ago

It’s almost as though Tesla is being granted a monopoly.

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (23 children)

Yeah, it's extremely frustrating here. The EV market actively sucks with limited options and inflated prices. I also bought a used Polestar 2 last year, so now I'm extra frustrated.

My guess, however, is that PS just didn't care to deal with obtaining the waiver- the brand has sold poorly here in the US and they've been posturing to exit the market for a few years.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I wasn’t even aware they were selling in the US. I used to pay attention since they seemed to have compelling vehicles, but never here and never affordable

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Yeah I absolutely love my P2, but they sold terribly in the US. Compared to a Tesla model 3 (which are unfortunately still super popular despite Musk), it was nicer but with les range and around twice the stocker price. Polestar struggled to really position themselves here successfully, imo, but they aren't a particularly high volume brand in other places either.

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[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

It’s gets better. Even if you find an EV, the states tax you more than an ICE car. Texas has a $200 yearly fee to supposedly make up for lost gas tax revenue. But at 20c/gallon and assuming 30mpg, I’d have to drive 30,000 miles to offset that cost (only drove about 8,500 miles per year).

And now they want to do the same at the Federal level with another $150 tax (federal taxes are 18c/gallon), which would be another 25,000 miles.

So I would be taxed $350/year to offset “gas tax losses”, which would only even out for me if I were to drive 55,000 miles in a year.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I heard about that, and that's crazy. You gotta love all that freedom. 🤥
I don't drive nearly that much either.
I understand the logic of the tax on gas to pay for roads, but here an EV is taxed less because it pollutes less. USA needs more of that.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

I understand the logic of the tax on gas to pay for roads

But even that doesn’t really hold up. Gas tax depending on state, generally covers less than half of road maintenance and is already unfair because of hybrids and other efficient vehicles.

And the bulk of the damage is probably from big trucks anyway

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[–] redsand@infosec.pub 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Hey just a friendly reminder those Chinese EVs are backdoored with an Elon style god mode like Tesla. Lots of modern cars have a similar issue but EVs get it bad. Tl;dr rip out your car's modem.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I bet all the new cars are unfortunately, my VW is also constantly connected to VW.
We need to make that shit illegal. Until then we have to live with it, just as with our smartphones.
I know I can install AOSP and get rid of it, and I did use that for years, but I just want the hassle anymore.

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 4 points 1 day ago

Not ALL but most yeah. It's partially just for data mining to make new cars more profitable but is also an easy way for spooks to RC a car

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[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Why in the fuck can't I purchase a non connected vehicle?

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, but you can build yourself one.

/s

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

You can…until they come for the kits and older cars. It’s also expensive and takes a while, too.

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[–] pageflight@piefed.social 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The U.S. Department of Commerce’s Bureau of Industry and Security denied Polestar an authorization under the current Connected Vehicle Rule to sell cars in the U.S. from model year 2027 on. That’s because Polestar is a subsidiary of Geely, a Chinese automaker. Ironically, Polestar’s sister brand, also owned by Geely, Volvo, was granted the authorization in May.

What's the Connected Vehicle Rule? From the Bureau of Industry and Security (is that a thing?):

On January 14, 2025, the U.S. Department of Commerce’s Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) issued a rule restricting the import and sale of certain connected vehicles and related hardware/software linked to China or Russia. BIS determined these transactions pose national security risks, as companies from these countries may be compelled to share data or allow remote access to connected vehicles in the United States.

So, the reported ban seems capricious, but I wouldn't mind one solution: stop making cars connected. The key fob uses its local protocol for lock/unlock and remote start, my phone uses bluetooth for charge controls and status, and there's a scren that uses Android Auto. Car companies stop trying to write UX and network stacks.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yea but then they couldn't harvest and sell your data

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

also can be a pain, Toyota doesn't have connected services, so you need to take your car into Toyota Australia for a recent recall software update, manufacturers with connected services just do an OTA update.

As an Australian I couldn't give a shit about China spying on me, I do care if my own country spies on me. I own a BYD

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

In a competitive market we’d have both. I really appreciate what Tesla has been able to do with regular software updates, and that has been a compelling part of that vehicle. But I’m also tempted by Slates simplicity approach: no gadgets, no surveillance

[–] Shartyfartblast@piefed.zip 3 points 1 day ago

TIL Volvo is a subsidiary of a Chinese company

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Me looking at my 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM:

"It's ok. They can't hurt you. You parked next to a 240i and you felt superior remember?"

That's me looking at my BST 270 😂

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Arbitrary actions are arbitrary.

I'm not terrified by that, just disgusted.

My guess is that the ulterior motive is to protect Tesla. Their competitors almost all offer better quality, and increasingly there are entrants to the market that produce those higher-quality vehicles at far lower cost. Musk seems unable or unwilling to take corrective actions, instead trying to buy the regulators.

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