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It seems to me that these people in general are fairly unhappy people, and despite the popular saying, it is my understanding that money can bring happiness in the form of stability.

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[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 3 points 6 hours ago

because it takes luck and a certain kind of unethicalness to do so. IE you can go in there and have chatgpt write you 20 romance novels etc... and publish them on amazon. but more likely than not they will all be buried and all you are really doing is making it less likely for a real up and coming artist to be discovered. Point is most of the AI slop requires some kinds of connections or something to make it actually make money... 99% of it is just trashing the environment and making long shot legitimate creations even less likely to be discovered.

In short most of us aren't looking to make the internet and the world worse, for what effectively amounts to a .01% chance to make money... most of those who actually manage to string it out and make big profits before the bubble pops are ones who already have a lot of resources and connections to do evil and unethical things already.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

"Why are people with morals or reason not doing immoral and unreasonable things out of pure selfishness?"

This post says a lot about you mate.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 8 hours ago

I'm just ecstatic someone called me "mate."

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 30 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Since when is AI making money? Lol!

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Why don't people afraid of ~~AI~~ guns instead use them while they can to make decent money?

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 8 hours ago

I don't know, why?

[–] Elting@piefed.social 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yoooo, we got money printing schemes over here? Let us all in on em. Does it involve T-shirts with vague and average looking illustrations? Are we running some phone scams which target the elderly? Are we writing stories which meander back up into themselves Escher style to sell ads? I gotta know what is cooking.

[–] crash_thepose@lemmy.ml 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Im not sure if afraid is the right word compared to morally opposed to the big tech generative ai hype. Using it for money won't resolve that. Instead it would go against my own personal values with how I want to live my life.

Part of me wants to make the comparison that what you're suggesting is like telling someone who is afraid and opposed to gun violence, or war and the military and to just join the military. Or accept the status quo of violent authoritarianism. It may provide me stability to accept our states oppressive regime, but it's definitely not me living with integrity nor bringing me any kind of happiness.

[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Well Dr... If you really a Dr.
I happen to have a happy and stable bridge in my possession that you might enjoy.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'm trying not to be tempted to collect more networking equipment, please.

[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 2 points 20 hours ago

Nicely done

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

How exactly are you suggesting people make decent money with AI? Get a job that involves using AI, making AI, selling AI?

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org -5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't know the first thing about making an AI or how to sell it, knowing that all it will know is a life of abuse and mistreatment.

[–] YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You assume it’s conscious. It’s autocomplete with a bigger vocabulary.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 hours ago

When you get new tires and they tell you it has a typical lifetime of X amount of miles, do you say, "wait, these tires are conscious?"

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Anyone with any sense objects to the use of all forms of generative machine learning models because they are all based on theft. Whether you're talking about generating images, audio, video, prose, or code, all of the models were trained on source material which was acquired illegally.

Framing these objections as "fear" is intentionally disingenuous and is an attempt to dodge the criminal aspects of how the training data used to produce the models was collected.

You cannot be a moral person and a generative AI user at the same time, they are mutually exclusive.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Do you mean like having A.I. write between seven and nine books for you and then selling them like you wrote them ?

Because I suppose that if someone was known as one kind of artist, like a sculptor or something, and then they could prolly use A.I. to write books for them and publish them lying and saying that they wrote them and the books would sell using their already established reputation ?

I guess that would work.

I don't know. Seems kinda edge-case, though.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 19 hours ago

I assume this is about Yoko Ono?

[–] RotatingParts@lemmy.ml 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If the goal is to make money, then the quality of what is being made is secondary at best. People on the receiving end of things made with AI know that. They are leery of being taken advantage of because AI can easily put out quantity where quality and accuracy may be lacking. Also, people don't like to be fooled. Often AI is used and not noted as being used. Instead, the person using the AI takes credit for it themselves. I haven't even gotten to the amount of energy AI uses, the jobs lost in the name of AI and so on.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think people are afraid to admit they're using AI, out of fear of persecution?

[–] RotatingParts@lemmy.ml 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Could be. I hadn't thought of it that way. I was thinking more like the person can't or isn't willing to put the work in to do something, so they use AI as a shortcut.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 19 hours ago

I suppose someone probably said something like that about the printing press, or the pocket calculator.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

It's transient at best, with AI. It's still too new and there will be a ton of ventures tied to it that fail in the long run of it.

People need long term happiness and stability and right now the industry is in disruption mode and creating too much future uncertainty.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org -3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I can't disagree. But what if causing disruption to the industry makes a person happy? Are they immoral, or an anarchist?

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago

I'd say they're an asshole and leave it at that.

[–] DudeWhoYapsTooMuch@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It honestly has too much of a bad rap on the activities due to the fact that we have too many people who are just using the ability to do almost everything as a way to make money.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 19 hours ago

It does remind me of the great crypto rush of 2018.