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[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm very much pro-union, but meanwhile artists and creators who made that content in the first place are getting fucked by everyone

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A Google spokesperson told Motherboard in a statement at the time of the unionization that it had “no objection to these Cognizant workers electing to form a union,” but that it would not bargain with them. “We are not a joint employer as we simply do not control their employment terms or working conditions—this matter is between the workers and their employer, Cognizant,” the spokesperson said.

NLRB seems to disagree. This will be an interesting case, I suspect ...

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

So Google, like Amazon, is trying to play the "they work for a subcontractor that only supports us, so it's their fault, not ours" card. I really want to see the NLRB smack this pattern down hard and set an example for all the other companies to try to avoid unionization by way of not directly hiring people.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Google will simply find a different contractor company. Problem solved.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What’s to stop every single corporation from leveraging third party contractor companies just to escape union bargaining? Cognizant seems like a company that basically exists for this reason. Both Amazon and Google play this game and it’s infuriating.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dark Brandon and the NLRB are on that shit. No more malarkey.

[–] ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hopefully people turn out in 2024 and stop us going down the 1930s Germany route..... my mother recently moved to Pennsylvania from a deep red state, and was saying that due to Bidens "corruption", she didnt think she would vote in 2024. Upon further questioning, my hyper conservative fundemantalist Christian uncle had been sending her news.

Hope my arguments convinced her otherwise, she detests Trump & the Republicans. Her vote DOES matter now. Have her set up with a variety of news websites & Firefox/ublock origin etc, and not "Townhall" garbage.

[–] WillardHerman@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Time to stop using Gmail and YouTube. I had already avoided go░gle search for months now.

Over the last three or four months I had deleted all my FaceBook, Twitter, Reddit, Instagram accounts. And this made me want to avoid go░gle search.

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just curious what's wrong with saying Google?

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You must be new to Lemmy. Grab a tinfoil hat from the box by the door.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Funny how the term "tinfoil" persists even though it hasn't been used in over 70 years.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Easier to say than "aluminium"

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Aluminum" at least has 1 less syllable. But I usually just say "foil." What else would I be talking about in that context?

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

“Aluminum” at least has 1 less syllable. But I usually just say “foil.” What else would I be talking about in that context?

a·lu·mi·num

tin·foil

(Sorry for the 'ackshully', but couldn't resist.)

[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Didn't even realize that was a word until I looked it up.

the chemical element of atomic number 13, a light silvery-gray metal.

Not sure how that relates in a conversation about tinfoil hats usage but sure why not.

I'm sure the composition of the devices has a significant performance impact on their effectiveness, worthy of discussion. :p

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ACKSHULLY, I was referring to "aluminum" as opposed to "aluminium."

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's not how you spelled it though in your comment.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Easier to say than “aluminium

Is the comment I was replying to.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fair enough. I didn't read the comment previous to yours, just your comment directly, so I thought you were referring to 'aluminum' versus 'tinfoil'.

[–] legion@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

YouTube Music is the enshitttified version of Google Play Music.

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which was an enshittified version of Songza. Google lost me for music a loooong time ago.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

God I loved Sonza. The best place I ever found to discover new music. RIP Songza

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yea, no...the headline is wrong on this one. These guys are contractors. Google will just nuke Cognizant's contract and call it a day.

Those guys aren't particularly good in my experience and are just warm bodies to do things that should be automated anyway.

Google will simply go to another big contract firm and call it a day.

[–] dana@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The NLRB ruled that the nature of their work makes them employees of both Cognizant and Google, despite whatever those companies try to classify them as, and that both are required to negotiate with the union. Google is now just flat-out refusing to respect that decision.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

That's cool n all...but what happens when Google drops the contract?

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm so glad bootlickers like you enjoy the taste of shoe leather. It makes the working class so much more unified.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't work on contract...then things like this don't happen.

[–] orphiebaby@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can I also live in your fantasyland where you get choices like this?

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Sure...get a bachelor's in STEM.