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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Sieze his assets and throw him in prison

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

In China they probably would execute him.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Thanks for getting me aroused, stranger.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Guess this Nazi welfare queen's government handouts aren't enough.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Elon Musk Is Charging Starlink Customers Gigantic Bogus Fees Because Its Network Is Being Crushed by [Musk's] “High Demand” for more money

FTFY

[–] Widdershins@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Elon Musk Is Charging Starlink Customers Gigantic Bogus Fees Because Its Network Is Being Crushed by [Musk’s] “High Demand” for more ~~money~~ ketamine

FTFTFY

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Company gives me a Starlink for deep remote work. I'm doing my part!

[–] amazingly101@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Violence against billionaires and trillionaire is not the answer. It is the question. And the answer IS YES.

[–] amazingly101@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Even my keyboard has trouble coping with the concept of a trillionaire.

1000101657

[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Lol. Lmao, even.

Skimping out on backbone capacity is definitely a Musk move 😂

[–] CombatWombat@feddit.online 59 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I hate everything about this. We're ruining our astronomical observations and risking Kessler Syndrome so a trillionaire can price gouge rural internet subscribers because he wants to get the high score on net worth because he can't get a high score on twitter likes (despite owning it) or any video game (despite having paid help). Who the hell told the United States that we have regulatory authority over our shared sky anyway?

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Starlink is extremely competitive for rural customers, due in no small part to the USA’s extreme reluctance to make telecoms with monopolies actually reach people.

[–] CombatWombat@feddit.online 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I would characterize a $1500 access surcharge as "extremely competitive" but I agree we should run fiber to rural areas.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

If you’re referring to the dish purchase, they’re free these days. But even so, when your competitor is $200-500 upfront for a latent multi hop WISP topping out at 30 or 50mbps for $100 per month, a solid 300mbps for $130 and $1000 for a dish is cheap

[–] CombatWombat@feddit.online 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

No I mean the $1500 monthly demand surcharge that is the subject of the article you're commenting under:

SpaceX is now charging some users so-called "demand surcharges" of up to $1,500

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

They aren't price gouging rural internet subscribers it's the opposite they get half priced subscriptions for as long as they keep them. It is the people who try to sign up that already live in a congested area that get fuck off prices. You can sign up and get a rural deal and then move to a congested area with fuckoff pricing. That is what I did inadvertently.

[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

TIL about Kessler Syndrome. Thanks.

[–] Elshender@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

There's an anime/manga series kinda about it. They're a misfit space garbage disposal crew. Meant to prevent space collisions.

https://youtu.be/ZESIHA0qK3U?is=RrFAaPIQCnlaVxUY

[–] CombatWombat@feddit.online 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you’re on a fedi service that allows you to follow individual accounts, like mastodon or piefed, you can follow my favorite astronomy professor in the fediverse who talks about this @sundogplanets@mastodon.social

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Followed because awesome.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Me too. Also, I’m surprised Bezos doesn’t just do “space debris” cleanup. He’s not going to get into Musk’s space anytime soon.

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[–] toohotforsoup@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Nah hes running out of dupes. Private equity is very, very stupid but theyre catching up

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 73 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Prior to and including IPO they have been on quite a marketing kick. Referral schemes, equipment rentals, discount plans for low usage etc. Seems like they’re trying hard to make the business make sense. I maintain that LEO (and WISP) ISPs should be limited to more extreme applications yet I see them all over the place in residential areas. Their technical achievements are impressive but if phone systems to remote areas were possible, then so should fibre optics.

Also this should be built by international organisations, not billionaires. A plague on Musk and a plague on Bezos.

[–] adarza@piefed.ca 2 points 12 hours ago

they were, for months, literally giving the hardware away. no hardware cost. no recurring fees. just 20 bucks for shipping, then the whatever for the actual internet plan itself. a flat $80/mo i think the lowest cost one was. i have a few users on it that bought into that deal. i think it was just before the ipo where they started tacking-on an extra monthly fee.

[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Ma Bell had several decades to gain good ROI with POTS, while the rate of technology change today shrinks that outlook to just one to two decades. Plus the most profitable high income areas to be installing fiber now often have local laws requiring much more expensive underground installations so residents don't have to see the ugly poles with wires hanging between them.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 hours ago

We’re still using dot-com fibre. There’s a long ROI.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Which snap a lot more regularly now with the broken weather.

I'm not in a remote area, just a geographically inconvenient one. Two blocks over they have fiber. Not in my neighborhood. I have been complaining about this for well over a decade.

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[–] nerdlovesgym@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago

High-demand fees are just surge pricing for the internet.

[–] Sineljora@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If you use starlink, you deserve far worse. 5g is usually sufficient unless you’re out in the ocean or something. Either way it’s ruining the night sky, making launches more dangerous, destroying the ozone layer we tried so hard to repair, and supporting death and fascism.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tell me you know nothing about rural living without telling you know nothing about rural living

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago

Fortunately in my area in Australia we have wireless broadband. There are small towers installed and operated by a local company that provide a good service. The whole lot of towers interconnect using microwave too so can span a large area. In any case, fibre isn’t coming to my place probably ever.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

5G in rural America is terrible. I can't make a phone call in my house, let alone get an internet connection. I'm not even in a particularly remote area.

There are Starlink dishes everwhere you look here because it's currently the only real option. It will probably be a while until they get some competition from Amazon.

[–] potpotato@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Because they lobbied to shutdown running fiber to your community.

[–] adarza@piefed.ca 1 points 11 hours ago

there is 100s of miles of fiber spools just sitting for years at a utility maintenance yard here. the provider that was doing the work to expand services just took the rest of the free money and split.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago

Maybe someday someone can explain why ISPs are not municipal services like water and sewage.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

The local ISP has been promising fiber for over a decade. They waited until Starlink took most of their customers before they started putting it in.

[–] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

destroying the ozone layer

This made me ask "wait, is that true" and apparently it is. Super, skin cancer for everyone. 🤦

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago

And it'll take ages to have an impact too.

Furthermore, we find that these reentry byproducts may take up to 30 years to settle from the top of the mesosphere into the stratospheric ozone layer. Upon reaching an altitude of about 40 km, aluminum oxides catalyze chlorine activation which promotes ozone depletion.

So the "reentry byproducts" from a satellite re-entering now, won't start breaking down ozone until 2056, and by then there will be another 30 years' worth of byproducts deposited in the upper atmosphere.

And since it's a catalyst, it won't even be consumed in the process like CFCs are.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tldr aluminum from burning up satellites is a catalyst that breaks down ozone.

[–] wioum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I wonder if wooden satellites would help. I don't know how capable they are compared to normal ones, but it should reduce the amount of aluminium we launch into space.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

Yes, there is a high demand for SpaceX to be less insolvent.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

The corporate version of privatize the profits, socialize the costs. Get in bed with billionaires and you're an enemy of humanity.

[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I've been having occasional Internet issues over the last few years and was thinking about having a backup ISP.

A lot of people in my town suggest Starlink... And well, I'd rather not have Internet at all!

However, I did recently find these guys: https://www.computers4people.org/shield I'm gonna give these guys a shot.

It's probably not comparable, but no way in hell am I ever signing up for Starlink.

[–] adarza@piefed.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

https://www.pcsforpeople.org/ is another organization with low-cost internet for low income households. they some have hardware, too. they've expanded a lot since their first location opened in minnesota in 1998. (note: i am not affiliated with them, i just occasionally refer people to them)

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