selfhosted use Discord
Lol
Discord absolutely failed them They consider starting another Discord server
Double lol
this post was submitted on 13 Jul 2026
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I definitely agree. Lol. But I also totally understand using Discord. I assume the community isn’t meant exclusively for people who currently self host, but also for people interested in starting to. In that regard, Discord will most likely be what those people have and are willing to use.
Correct. I have received help from that server in the past, and it's unusable now. Part of what I hope to accomplish is to replace Discord, or at least offer my friends an off-ramp. Getting started with Discord is way easier, and in the year 2026, I wouldn't know what other client to use to look for a community that gives me quick help via live chat. I no longer know how to use IRC, I've found.
I get the point that that's where the people are, but also kinda feel like the selfhosted community should act as a vanguard to a point. Sure, maybe you have a 'front door' on a corporate platform, but kinda feel like in the case of selfhosted sticking to your principles and purposefully rejecting platforms that don't fit the vision is kind of important especially when you're currently in the middle of finding out why.
Also I feel like discord has a limited lifespan until it will necessarily turn into worse. They lose money each year so I wonder when their vc money runs dry
Judging by the sales emails I've gotten from them they're trying to break into business use and compete with slack/teams. And all I have to say to that is "lol".
Fitting that r/selfhosted can't selfhost.
Hosting costs money, maybe if you disable voice, video, uploads, and only allowed text it would be manageable but discord is free. I run my own chat server but it's only for like 10 people.
At least voice and video are often done peer to peer. So the strain on the server would be almost zero.
There is still transcoding done thru the server, maybe depending on the app but the ones that use livekit it would.
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But why a new Discord server? 🤦
That’s the punchline brother man
"Fool me twice well... Shame on... Shame on...Point being we been fooled once we won't get fooled again!"
What a flippin' moron he was...both of them actually.
Fool me twice, get a free ticket to fool me thrice.
Those saying "just self-host Matrix/Stoat/XMPP", do not understand the power of network effects. If people are too lazy to sign up on your custom server, and you end up with 50% of the users you would have gotten if you used Discord, is that worth it? What if it was only 10%?
I wish there were a solution to this. Interoperability sounds nice until you have multiple competing standards (like Matrix and XMPP)
There's a certain irony making this comment on Lemmy.
Well I'm not trying to start a community around helping people, I'm just a participator. If I wanted to maximize the number of people I could help, I might move back to reddit
edit: a word
I understand that POV, but if people want help, they'll go to where it is. Walk the talk of FOSS. That's how we'll build better communities.
They won't go to Lemmy. Anybody getting into self hosting will not just know what Lemmy is. Nor will they per se care for FOSS to the same extent you do. So having people helping around on conventional platforms seems perfectly valid to me.
They could always advertise a Matrix room and bridge conversations if the moderators really wanted to as well, instead of isolating themselves.
Do you know what a hyperlink is? You just click on it and it takes you to Lemmy. You sign up, pretty much the same way you have done for every other service you have ever used. What are we doing here? Are we not trying to build alternatives to the corpo-surveillance hellscape that the internet has become? Give users a little more credit, and a little more incentive. Otherwise, you're sending mixed messages when you offer a way to get their photos away from google or something, but you force them to use fucking Discord for support.
It's fine if you disagree with me, but please keep it civil. The reason I'm saying they won't go to Lemmy is because those hyperlinks will usually lead to the relevant docs, a couple of blogpost, or Reddit. I personally have never seen a Lemmy or Piefed instance in my search results when I looked up a problem.
To give an example: I went to Google and I put in the query "how to start self hosting on a linux server", which is what I assume someone getting into it would look up. The top site (skipping the AI response and for some reason, Youtube videos?) was Reddit. That's why it makes sense to me to offer help on a more conventional platform for people getting into self hosting. The people among them who get into federated services will naturally find their place here. They are not forced either way.
If a little light sarcasm is incivility to you, then you're in for a real struggle. I don't know how most people end up self-hosting but I suspect it's more of an organic process. For me, jeez... I can probably trace it back to using StumbleUpon browser extension, hearing about Linux, then installing it as a way to avoid studying for exams. Once I was using Linux on my computer, I suppose self-hosting was inevitable. Where did I get the info? Wherever I could find it.
I don't get what you mean by organic process. But sure, if you don't think many people getting into self hosting would look something up like that, I get that you don't think it's worthwhile for a self hosting community being present on those platforms.
I mean it like, it's a slow progression that builds on other interests, rather than your average person deciding suddenly to self-host. And it's not that I think it is or isn't worthwhile, I just have a different idea about what "we" are trying to accomplish. If your priority is to grow the userbase of one particular community or project, then I can see why you would want to have "presence" on corporate platforms. I still think it warrants an examination of the principles of self-hosting and consideration of "alternative" platforms.
They're a completely unserious owner if they use Discord still as a "selfhoster", that and getting hacked on top of that shows how careless they are as a moderator.
Self hosting and providing a public service are two very different things.
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At least they’re admitting their fault.
Edit; Their matrix room if anyone is interested.
It's kubernetes so I couldn't even fix it if I wanted to
lol
My hotest selfhosting take is that stuff I use in my day job, docker/k8s/cloud is not worth it and generally worse for long-term self hosting than a Debian box.
Like I have the skills to troubleshoot containerized setups, it's litterally my dayjob, but I'd rather not deal with it in my freetime unless there is no other way to run it.
Eh, docker is actually amazing for self hosting. ESPECIALLY anything python, I'm not here to fuck around with conflictinging requirements and venvs all day.
k8s can fuck right off though. Completely overkill for home use. Honestly completely overkill for most business uses.
Is that a hot take? I see a lot of people saying this, including myself. Kubernetes solves problems at work, but is way overkill even for my moderately elaborate home setup that would cause more troubles than it solves. If people want to use k8s at home go ahead, but I don't.
k8s is overkill for majority of companies as well
After using Proxmox for a while, I swear by LXC, at least the way it is provided there.
Makes containerization make sense without all the pain.
Disclaimer: not even an IT guy, so can be gravely mistaken, just want to own my stuff.
Honestly, I'm really happy with the ability to just try out stuff with docker and then nuke the entire compose stack if it does not work. I also know perfectly where any possible leftovers from the attempt are (the bind mounts or volumes) and can be certain I deleted everything I "installed".
Although I have to admit that I absolutely had some issues with containers in the past, mainly when there are two or more containers with dependencies on one another.
Never used k8s or the cloud so I have nothing to comment on that ;D
Discord sucks.
Matrix, dudes.
The irony.
Stoat chat has been a good Discord alternative.
last i checked it was very difficult to run your own instance (including voice chats)
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Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:
| Fewer Letters | More Letters |
|---|---|
| LXC | Linux Containers |
| XMPP | Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol ('Jabber') for open instant messaging |
| k8s | Kubernetes container management package |
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THIS Alanis! This right here!
Why, use Redddit if you are in a self hosting community, I understand the community of curious people are there but are you really going to be selling yourself short like that? Than to be using discord as a self hosting community messanger?
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