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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/63371850

How did Voldemort actually die?

I've been thinking about this, and the explanations we're given don't quite add up.

First, they say Harry is the master of the Elder Wand because he disarmed Malfoy. But here's the thing — Malfoy wasn't even holding the Elder Wand at the time. He was holding his own wand. So how does that work exactly? That connection feels like a bit of a stretch.

Then there's the idea that the Killing Curse rebounded because the Elder Wand wouldn't kill its true master. But if that's the case, why wouldn't the wand just refuse to cast the spell at all? Why would it rebound instead of simply malfunctioning? A rebound makes it look like Harry has some kind of protective magic strong enough to reflect Avada Kedavra, which raises even more questions.

I'd love to hear what you all think. Am I missing something, or is this one of those things we're just supposed to accept and move on?

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[–] msage@programming.dev 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just accept that JKRowling sucks as an author.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For real. I don't get what people see in those books. Her writing is insufferable.

Kids read them and/or watched the movies and grew up. They then got nostalgic for the media of their childhood.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The answer is that Rowling is as good of a writer as she is a person

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago

She's a way better writer than she is a person

She is a pretty shit writer though

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Shot in the head offscreen by Ron Weasley using a requisitioned Barret 50 cal. anti-materiel rifle.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That was George or Fred.

Ron was too stupid to be Harry Potter Evans friend.

[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

"George or Fred" so similar you can't even tell the dead one from the live one.

[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.nz 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's a headcannon I've heard of that's way better than the books. It says that voldemort was the master of the elder wand. The connection the wand has to personified death means that killing changing ownership makes more sense than disarming. But the real reason that voldemort lost is because he had so little soul left after creating 8 horcruxes and having them all destroyed. Him having at most a ninth of his soul meant he was doomed even with the elder wand.

The problem with this theory is that it actually presents a moral case that works the villain's actions into a theme, so it's clearly impossible for Joanne to put in her books.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 13 points 1 week ago

I remember where I was a kid and I liked Harry Potter. I had all these fan theories to make it make sense. I was doing so many mental gymnastics to fix Jo's story.

Now I just admit that the slave heads in Santa hats are fucked.

[–] DrBob@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was a full grown adult when these books came out. I had to hate read them because of nieces and nephews etc and I have always known that they sucked and that Rowling was a lazy, shitty writer. It used to be an unpopular opinion. It's nice to see the world caught up.

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Don't think anyone changed their opinion about her writing, they went from overlooking what is bad because they liked the story or whatever to criticising what is bad because they dislike her opinion.

[–] orenj@leminal.space 16 points 1 week ago

He got ligma but died of terfitis

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

AFAIK Dumbledore was its master and Snape took his life so he was its new master. Then I don't remember exactly but somehow Harry was the one to actually kill Snape. So he became it's master malfoy took the wand to his master but it never obeyed either of them?

[–] tug7503@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

According to the book Malfoy is the one that owns the wand because he disarmed Dumbledore, then Harry disarmed Malfoy and became the new master