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[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 15 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Not sure how I feel about this.

From my understanding the island wishes to stay part of the UK, but I don't know if historically that's because they colonized the fuck out of it.

Argentina is also kind of an asshole country, so is the UK. Both in their own way.

Argentina also played like absolute assholes. The UK is notorious for being assholes about football.

I guess I'll just say oof.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There was no colonization.

The issue with the malvinas/Falklands is that there are no "historically rightful owners", since no one lived there when they were discovered by the British.

But it's also not as easy as "the British discovered, so it's theirs", because they just discovered and left. They didn't leave no settlement.

The islands have a complicated history, both sides have strong arguments in favor of themselves, there's no clear cut "rightful owner".

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 hour ago

Hm that's tough. I always like to think boundaries set by countries are bullshit anyway, but it is located closer to Argentina. Another comment says they both want it because the island comes with vast amount of fishing so economic reasons. And the UK probably put money forth to develop some sort of living situation on there.

[–] pipi1234@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Some facts that most of you might you not know:

Argentina argues it inherited sovereignty from Spain after independence, and that it was actively administering the islands (with a governor and settlers) when Britain forcibly removed the Argentine garrison in 1833 and installed its own settlers — an act Argentina considers an illegal seizure of territory it has never accepted. Argentina also points to geographic proximity: the islands sit about 300 miles off the Argentine coast, versus roughly 8,000 miles from Britain.

So invading an occupied territory 8000 miles from your country is fair play?

This happening today would trigger all kind of global outrage and ONU actions.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 55 minutes ago) (1 children)

The fact that Israel is committing a genocide and razing Gaza as the world watches mostly unmoved destroys your last sentence. The world doesnt care at all. This has nothing to do with sovereignty or administration or even colonialism. This is just about money (for england) and distracting people from the fact that Argentine's economy is collapsing (again, money).

This conflict is what happens when the military makes political decisions. Argentina could've had the islands for decades if they weren't so eager to play fascist invader themselves.

[–] pipi1234@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Speak for yourself, I've seen massive outrage about Gaza genocide.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 59 minutes ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago)

Oh, you meant like stern letters and tons of meetings where the US vetoes everything? Sure there would be some of those. But no one will actually do anything outrageous to stop it.

Like, a ton of people will still make money out of selling weapons to both sides. And somehow governments will publicly denounce the conflict while also making record profit on war technology, as is tradition with global outrages.

Lots of tiktok and Instagram posts, surely as well, at least during the first weeks.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

ARA General Belgrano belongs to Posiden

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 48 points 5 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] richardwallass@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago

Now I understand why they elected Javier Milei.

[–] PromKingJosh@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 15 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Source in case you're wondering if the photo is real: www.theguardian.com/football/2026/jul/15/malvinas-is-argentinian-world-cup-holders-celebrate-win-over-england-with-banner

It's a shame it has come to this, especially that Scaloni - Argentina's coach - opposed the whole war undertones by saying that "it will be just a football match and nothing more" during a press conference.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago
  • Don't cry for me, Argentina
  • The truth is, I never left you
  • All through my wild days, my mad existence
  • I kept my promise
  • Don't keep your distance
[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 16 points 5 hours ago

So Messi believes that Argentina should colonize the Falklands? Man I really wish he had just stayed a football autist.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Gibraltar español!

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 40 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

Argentina played some of the dirtiest WC soccer I've ever seen. Grabbing the English goalie's arms during a corner kick, regularly shoving opposing players in the back and grabbing their jerseys when they got the ball during a fast break. The referee only handed out a single yellow card, and let everything else pass.

Messi wasn't doing it so overtly, but everyone else especially Simeone, were just blatant. Have no dog in this race, but that was just gross.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago

4 yellow cards, 1 for England, 3 for Argentina. Martinez, Romero, and De Paul all got carded, as did Anderson

Personally, I think the ref should have started handing them out right from the start to set the tone, but then I hate dirty football. I personally think you should beat the other team by playing better football

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed, watching the match was painful. Spain vs France was a much, much better game.

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 2 points 1 hour ago

The refereeing in that game was arguably worse than the Argentina-England game. And this is coming from an England supporter.

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[–] JayDee@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

How many people actually live in the Falklands. Looks like there's mostly nothing on that island.

I know Falklanders want to remain in UK control majority-wise. I also somewhat get why Argentina wouldn't want what is essentially a potential base of operations off their coast (though realistically they couldn't really do anything about it even if they did have sovereignty over it).

At the same time, i can't really make sense of why the hell have the british fought to keep ahold of the Falklands. Maybe just because the british just love collecting shit that means nothing to them but have major significance to other nations' people? I don't really get it.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The Falklands have massive fishing rights over a massively rich area. It has nothing to do with a few thousand people and a few sheep. The UK couldn't care less about the people. Same for Argentina. You don't fight a war over a forlorn rock. Same with Gibraltar ( as the UK has shown with Brexit. Gibraltar is strategically important for Spain and the UK, nothing more. The people are just an excuse)

[–] JayDee@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago

Ah that explains it the best. Now I feel like Argentina has more claim than the UK.

[–] tmijail@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The islands are the basis for the British's claim to Antarctica

CIA - The World Factbook -- Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas) https://user.iiasa.ac.at/~marek/fbook/04/print/fk.html

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

eh, I don't care about this honestly. actually i don't think they even care, it's just getting a rise out of the country they beat. Argentina had way worse problems with racism to worry about this imo.

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