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Supposedly the change of heart came after "the first security incident that I have felt very viscerally," the Huggingface escape. To me it sounds like he's worried about the competition breathing down his neck and wants someone to come in and call a time-out.

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[–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

How much of the costs of open AI is R&D

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago

BREAKING: A Billionaire Said Some Bullshit.

I know downvotes are generally frowned upon here... But c'mon. This ain't what we should be hyping up attention for.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Way to get ahead of the slowdown Sam. Control the narrative. You "chose" to scale back.

"Actually we almost made the A.I. too good and it scared me cuz of how good it was"

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I’d be ok with him rapidly “decelerating” at end of a long fall…

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 193 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Every "Sam Altman said..." headline can be summed up as:

"Manipulative liar says whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear."

[–] MadPsyentist@lemmy.nz 35 points 3 days ago

"Tech crypto grifter says thing to grift people with crypto, tech or both. More at 11"

Although i cant imagin any sign of a pullback would be good for any of the companies in the AI bubble. While probably not important on the specifics of what he is saying it is a "we should slow down" which the market aint gonna like. No breaks on this gravy train Sammy boy!

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

...to attract more inversement.

[–] ptsdstillinmymind@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago

He is just like Elon Musk a tech bro con man that has the backing of some of the richest companies and people in the world.

[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can tell when Altman is lying by noticing that his mouth is open.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

Sufficient but unnecessary imo.

Sometimes he lies in print, tbd whether he talks out the words when he types.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

how much hype are you going to milk from something that could have been stopped with ctrl c

[–] artifex@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Ctrl-C doesn’t get him the big valuations though. Gotta follow the money.

[–] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 106 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Likely translation: scaling their models is hitting diminishing returns, while the business world is slowly realizing the math ain't mathing and they're not suddenly 10x more efficient and profitable than before LLM adoption.

So Sammy and the others need a plausible cover story why capabilities aren't evolving at break neck speed anymore, to prevent their beautiful bubbly bubble from crashing down on them

This is the part I don't get. No learned model I'm aware of scales well forever. Eventually, funneling more data just isn't going to do the trick.

[–] artifex@piefed.social 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Let's hope they get the Enron treatment for their actions

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm thinking more French revolution treatment.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago

Exactly. Who tf actually believes this crap?

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[–] PushButton@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Ah!

You are "ready" to decelerate... It's going to be hard for you to do so, it is going to take some efforts, but since you are ready to do it...

Just for us I presume, how sweet from you Sam, how sweet...

[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 days ago

Ahhh yes, decelerate into the singularity. We wouldnt wanna ram it full speed, it might break!

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 46 points 3 days ago

Company can't keep up with competitors, claims it is for altruism

[–] db2@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago

He should accelerate himself off a cliff.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 44 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sam is a con man, why is anyone listening to him.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

because of near-constant media stories like this one

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why do we care that some greedy bastard is doing a fake apology tour?

[–] artifex@piefed.social 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because he’s a greedy bastard with the ear of every head of state, standing at the top of a $1.6T pyramid scheme we’re all tangled up in.

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[–] Miller@lemmy.world 52 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] artifex@piefed.social 30 points 4 days ago

Yeah, we've definitely been seeing diminishing returns with the latest frontier models. I think that's why when GLM and Kimi come in at 1/5 the price of Opus but are just as good, or when Deepseek comes in at 1/10 the price and is catching up quickly, they have to worry. There may be nowhere for them to go.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago

LOL...those graphs didn't infinitely extrapolate Sam?

99% of failed companies are from graph extrapolation in board rooms.

[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

He can do what he wants - except closing Pandora's box. It stays open. The race is on, whether he participates or not.

[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 33 points 4 days ago

Stop paying attention to this lying fuckwad.

[–] Slashme@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've just been reading the Wikipedia article about the huggingface intrusion, and it reminds me strongly of the descriptions of hacking in Neuromancer.

[–] artifex@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thats why there are no smart locks in my house. Deadbolts and keys only.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

This is the lock picking lawyer here queue sound of rock impacting glass

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (3 children)

He wants regulations to kill the competition. Open source is gonna get fucked in the coming months. The whole media campaign has been specifically for this.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

The competition is Chinese and doesn't give a fuck about US regulations.

[–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If it was, then it spectacularly backfired. Support for open-weight models is greater than ever before, both from the general public and tech giants.

In the wake of OpenAI agents attacking Hugging Face, Nvidia has recruited a new posse of partners to promote open source models as the security solution the industry needs. The AI arms dealer announced the foundation, the Open Secure AI Alliance, in a blog post today, describing the mission of the group being “to ensure defenders everywhere have open, frontier tools they can trust and control.”

Partners in the group are numerous, ranging from established tech giants like Microsoft, Red Hat, HPE, IBM, and Adobe to newer groups like Palantir, SpacexAI, Hugging Face, and The Linux Foundation. What all the founding members have in common, Nvidia said, is that they agree open source AI models are a fundamental part of modern cybersecurity, just like prior open source tech has been for the infosec space.

Tech giants link hands to praise open AI models after OpenAI - Hugging Face attack

Edit: typo fix

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sorry if this is a dumb question but I keep seeing open source and open weight when talking about LLMs. Are these two terms interchangeable? If not, what do they mean and which is correct?

[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Open weight is like getting a compiled binary with no source code. Without the training data and pipeline code, once the original developer stops releasing new versions, it’ll be difficult for the community to pick up and keep going.

For example, if Alibaba decides to only release trillion parameter models from now on, Qwen 3.6 may be the most intelligent Qwen model that will ever run on consumer hardware.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They mostly are interchangeable for most people but almost none of the llm weights are properly open source.

They don't always give the training scripts and never the actual data so it isn't reproducible. The data isn't really feasible to give. A lot of them release papers at the same time where they explain the training with snippets and how it works, but it's not the same as receiving a script.

That being said, some get really upset and stress the distinction but it's a bit silly imo. If it's free and easily fine tunable, I don't really see the issue of calling it open source. Giving the data for it would open them up to lawsuits from the copyright mafia and wouldn't bring much to the table. Training these models is completely out of reach for individual and small to medium sized organisations.

Training a small model was more than a million dollars in compute a year or two ago.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No he isn't, the only reason Sam Altman would hit the breaks is if he was falling behind and needed to catch up.

[–] ape_arms@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's difficult to think of a more punchable face than Sam Altman's.

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I dunno, Dario Amodei’s face is my personal choice.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

my vote for punchable face is Jeff Bezos

[–] Escape13@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago

There’s also one rich asshole called Larry Ellis

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[–] scytale@piefed.zip 19 points 3 days ago

We need to scale AI development!

Openweight models start growing

No, not like that!

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Nvidia is backing the wrong horse

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