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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago (5 children)
[–] lividweasel@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, he included Japan and South Korea, among others that aren't strictly "Western." They are all US allies, though, which makes sense for a US Senator.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I mean, he included Japan and South Korea

When you hit a saturation point of US military bases, they just start calling you part of the Western bloc.

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[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 5 points 4 days ago

Hey NZ is major now, don't take that away from us!

[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 6 points 4 days ago

Maybe compared to Liechtenstein and Vatican or something like that

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I once collapsed on the streets in Russia when I was an exchange student there. Started seeing a message bubble over and over in one eye, then collapsed, I couldn't get "help" out. Idk what happened or how I got there but I woke up in the hospital. Someone must have called an ambulance and I had a CT scan of my head while I was out. They did blood work and whatnot. Got food, it was just oatmeal and bread, but I mean, it's something.

I had traveller's insurance and wackily tried to explain that this is common and a "I pay out of pocket they reimburse me" thing instead of Universal Basic Insurance so they decided nah not worth it just go home. I haven't paid a single cent. I'm not even sure I'm in their records, although I did show my passport.

I was in the ER on another trip to Russia, they really can't be bothered. Checked me for appendicitis and thankfully I was cleared for a flight home.

I mean they were hella rude and have that typical baseline of Russian angriness and annoyance but you know what, I got taken care of well.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd say Russian medics are less angry and more tired and overburdened a lot of the time. This does reflect on their attitudes, but that's not out of bad intent.

But yes, what you said is true, and that's how it should be. Honestly, I'd rather just have emergency medical service get free of all that insurance paperwork and just do their thing. It's not that they'll ever deny medical service anyway.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In my case I think they really were angry because I am a Russian (only) citizen but I have never lived in Russia. I don't hold an inner passport, only an outer passport (absolutely unfathomable to them), and I actually did at a point try to get the basic insurance set up, but I would have needed the inner passport for that. For them it was absolutely whack that I am a Russian citizen that has no Basic Insurance number and my very special circumstances (to add to that, at that point I was fluent in speaking and absolutely illiterate in reading and writing) were too complicated for them to follow and "every person has an insurance number wtf you're Russian wtf is wrong with you just go and get a fucking number what's your problem wtf why don't you have a passport everyone has a passport from age 14 onwards wtf what is wrong with you" was absolutely the attitude.

But really, I understand, my situation was very complicated and my reasons were valid but going into all these details in a clinic, let alone an ER setting, would absolutely tire and drain the last remaining energy out of them. I absolutely prefer them being not lovey dovey and hand holding while telling me with a compassionate smile that they cannot do a CT scan without an insurance number, but instead getting necessary treatment and analysis on the spot. I don't care if you call me names. I'll forever be grateful to them.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I understand how confused they were!

Medics are absolutely not prepared to see something like this. Your case is very much out of the ordinary, and honestly, I didn't know you can have outer passport without an inner one. Doesn't the consulate provide one? Or did you just never bother to? How were you legally present within Russia without an internal passport?

Glad that the situation worked out fine, though

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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

It's true, we are beyond pathetic.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Hehehe Greece a major country.

[–] mrmisses@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

🇺🇸 shit hole country 🇺🇸

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The US isn't a major country they're a shithole and thus it's unfair to compare them with the rest

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We sure do have a ton of shit.

But, you're delusional if you think the US isn't still a top country.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Your personal list doesn't count.

If you ever visited Boston even for just a 3 day weekend, you'd quickly see an example of how great the U.S. could be.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

"could"

You're so real for this.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I've never claimed it wasn't a shit show around places in the Country.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

New Zealand mentioned as a major country. Very funny Mr Sander's

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 4 points 4 days ago

Hey, I was hoping to say that!

[–] plyth@feddit.org 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There are wait times and a tendency to turn healthcare private by making the public option not good enough. Enough countries are on their way to copy the US.

The big problem is that the prices are decoupled from the costs. The US healthcare system would be affordable if insurance companies couldn't negotiate for their own rates.

[–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Public systems will always be the backbone of healthcare because spinning a profit is not a KPI.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

MediCAID for all.

For anyone who walks in the door. Healthcare is a human right, and we should all support this.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

penguins of antartica.

[–] Racoonwithbenefits@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago (7 children)

What defines a “major country”?

Belgium, finland, denmark, and norway are quite small

[–] bunnybunny@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 days ago

Good point, but you still don’t have healthcare

[–] thedarkfly@feddit.org 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I wouldn't say that the Nordic countries are minor. As a Belgian, I'll abstain on the status of Belgium.

But in no way I'd call Luxembourg major 😄

Anyway, this classification is subjective and reveals the personal biases of Sanders towards, apparently, rich countries.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I mean, yeah, he obviously talks about rich countries, that's the whole thing. It's easy to tell why poor country wouldn't have good universal healthcare, but for a rich one there is no excuse.

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[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 3 points 4 days ago

Yeah, it's more interesting that countries like Iran and Vietnam have very cheap or free basic medical services. Sure you might not get all of the resources that they can provide you in Sweden, but the principle is the same.

[–] Lemmert@reddthat.com 6 points 4 days ago

As Belgian, I can explain that with the fact that we are short kings

My guess is it's a nicer way to say the common "1st world nation" terminology that developed after the world wars and modified a bit for economic growth and such.

Most "1st world nation" lists will be between 30-40 these days. 35 in this list

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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I live in one of the top countries and health insurance is almost required. Now its not as expensive but it could be thousands a year.

Doctor is expensive and difficult to get.

The US sucks but we suck too, just less.

[–] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

However the goal is still to provide everyone with healthcare. If you cannot afford the insurance you will get a subsidy or even an exemption in most countries.

[–] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago

America's the fuccin' worst

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

>Finland

>Major country

Lol. Lmao even.

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And they just cut more funding 😑

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

TIL: Indonesia, population 288 million, is not a major country. I wonder what makes a country major. Oh and also China?

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