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[–] Speiser0@feddit.org 3 points 11 hours ago

Is there anything tou louse?

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 39 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody's going to make the joke?

... They had nothing Toulouse?

Actually yeah, it's hack. Sorry everyone.

[–] LemmyPlaceDN@europe.pub 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

You beat me to it. I've been waiting to make that joke ever since I heard of that city's name. When I opened the comments to post, your comment was right at the top.

[–] BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's lots of great examples of this across the Netherlands as well, Amsterdam and Nijmegen come to mind personally. After WWII so many places were rebuilt for cars, only for people to eventually realize that was a bad idea and begin designing with people in mind first.

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, but let's remember it took violent protests for that to change.

[–] BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That seems to be the case for many societal changes that come from the common people, rather than being forced by people already in power.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago

Yes, the people with power built systems to keep the power to choose in their hands. The only way that changes is if we make them choose what we want (which is a fucked way to run things, if you think about it. Only those pushed to violence or those who already are steeped in it get to make changes)

[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Wait, are you saying that removing a parking lot full of old timey cars and horse carriages and replacing it with a lovely park was a mistake that should be reversed?

[–] expr@programming.dev 3 points 21 hours ago

It's given as an example of "choosing again".

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

No, I'm saying that creating that parking lot was the mistake. Turning it into a lovely park was us reversing that mistake

[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world -2 points 20 hours ago

Sure, but the only active change shown is the change of removing a parking lot and creating a nice park. That seems like it would fit great with a caption that reads as an awesome thing has been done. But yours doesn't. It starts off "This was never a necessity" and then continues it was a choice, and we're free to choose again.

Even the "it was a choice" is placed after the shitty parking lot has been transitioned into the nice park. So it reads as if it says the act demonstrated in the photo was never a necessity, and that creating the nice park was a choice that we can decide to go back and change.

It's like if your top image was a man pulled from a lake laying there unbreathing and looking dead, and then your second image was some awesome person leaning over him after having resuscitated him and him looking all happy and alive.

The order of the images combined with the text implying that an unnecessary evil has been done but that we can change that evil would seem to be saying that we should go make sure that fucker drowns all the way this time.

[–] spontaneoushumancombustion@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Not with the lack of high speed rail and cost effective public commuter infrastructure in the US. But we've got that freedom stuff, or so I hear.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The us really struggles to do anything for the public. A big part of why is racism, but I think a lot of people are also a mix of vanilla stupid and indoctrinated.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

It’s definitely complicated. Feedback loops of bad infrastructure planning leading to bad transit which leads to car dependency which leads to car-first infrastructure which is bad…

When I need think about when to catch a bus because the service is infrequent and I don’t want to wait 20 minutes, it usually means that the bus route is circuitous and won’t get me to my destination without some transfers. It’s usually easier to just drive directly even though there’s many costs, hidden and otherwise.

And then there’s the sheer cost of trains in anglophone countries..

But you’ve got a good point; there’s not as much cultural appreciation for projects that simply benefit the community - “without profit, what’s the motive” seems to be the reasoning.

ETA - there’s no problem evicting people from land to build AI datacentres and highways. But to do so for a train? The horror. My freedom!

[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

lack of high speed rail and cost effective public commuter infrastructure

That was a choice

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

Its sooo annoying. There is a railroad track near home. I can look out my window at work and see a train track. You can even see where there used to be stations. it would be cheap and easy. But no. GM needs to sell more shitty cars.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I sincerely doubt there is any freedom (as in right to do something) in the USA that does not exist, likely enhanced, in France (or other EU countries)

It is time for Americans to accept they have been bamboozled and start rebelling against their corporate masters

No, you don't have to set yourself on fire, just start with the easier stuff: cancel every subscription to any of the big services, degoogle as much as possible, boycott any big brand and make sure no matter what happens, you go cast your vote

None of that will kill you, but little by little it will make a difference

High speed rail replaces planes.

Regional rail replaces cars.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

True of literally everything we do.

We need to look at the root influences on the choices we make each step of the way. I suggest that capitalism drives many of these choices that lead to hostile environments for most people. "Most people" being we poors.

[–] sanitation@lemmy.today 1 points 17 hours ago

Only we are not. All this shit is private in us

[–] CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

We have one area in my city, which is now already pretty old, that took a very modern approach but now outdated to what they are currently doing.

Before it seemed like the answer of the future, but now it seems like a way to get people to agree with something worse and less sensible.

I'll explain the situation: they built these really awesome modern decent sized appartment buildings on a big area that were placed seemingly in a random layout (visually appealing unlike the old timey squared everything, the layout that is). These were really cool buildings that had that modern feel to it with lovely colours and some visually interesting shapes.

All parking was moved underground so not a car is in sight, it's damn near in the city center so everything is a short walk away but you still had the ability to own a car. It has 3 entrances for cars to get to the parking that is underneath the building you're living in, so still close to home.

Ever since they haven't built anything like this, heck they built casual old fashioned style apartments that are tiny and crazy expensive, combined with row homes that used to be affordable but now cost over half a million even tho the surface area is still considered small especially compared to American standards.

They recently started teasing "modern buildings" but those are nowhere near these absolutely gorgeous perfect solution to society without taking too much away from the people.

These new ones have no parking space, at all. They cost an arm and a leg to rent and to make matters worse you share the laundry room with 60 people and every 5 studios share a kitchen and toilet. Yeah that's right...studio appartements, a single fucking room for your whole ass life to be squeezed into. You need 2 adult minimum wages for the right to get these single person living spaces which you share with God knows who.

I absolutely hate it.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

At least here in the US, the only 'we' in this scenario is local, and you should absolutely be involved in your local politics. Nationally we're effectively powerless, but if we get a few dozen socialists elected, that may change.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 3 points 23 hours ago

Many older cities seem to always hit a point where if they want more parking, they have to knock down the buildings the people want to visit to fit in more parking. After that, they start pushing back against cars.