Systemd waiting for to terminate on shutdown is one of the reasons i've ditched it.
this post was submitted on 30 Jul 2026
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"A stop job is running for user manager for UID 1000" is such a pain :D
It's even worse, when I tell my work Windows 11 computer to shut down and I have to choose update and shutdown because it decided to do updates, sometimes it reboots a few times but then it doesn't turn off afterwards.
I'm never going to install Windows 11 on any of my devices, it's so bad.
Are you guys really using a command to shut down a computer?
Because you can do the same with Windows, but nobody uses it because it is just not convenient to use commands for that.
shutdown /s
"please shut down (this is sarcasm)"
I used it when I was watching movies to fall asleep to but did not want to use the battery. You can specify a time with /t before the shutdown occurs.
I always did a sleep 1h && systemctl suspend
Windows update set my PC back almost 3 years for some unknown reason, lost so much shit. That was my final fuck it this shit moment, I installed Mint last week. A little bit of a learning curve, but I'm enjoying it and not worried about everything getting ruined unless I do something dumb. I can live with my own stupid.
You can just type "shutdown now" and it does.
Or just poweroff, one word not two
How about halt
I just push the button.
Muhahahahaha.
Okay, sometimes on a whim I'll do something like a "sudo shutdown -t 0 now". (... Muahahaha.)
Rarely shutdown my main computers though. Last time, years ago.
Better to have, and not need, than to need, and not have, right windows users?
halt 0
Don't the -t 0 and now do the same thing?
I've stumbled into various quirks across many systems over the decades, and, iirc, it was actually something like sudo shutdown -t secs now [(?! wat)] that resulted in reliable shutdown, contrary to all logic and presumed would-be redundancy. But, yeah, you'd think so. I don't know what the current state of shutdown's like. That was from like over 15 years ago, back when I had a X60T thinkpad I'd actually shutdown.
My button does the same as poweroff though, it will still give everything a couple seconds to kill itself
Well, there's a reason why I shut down my Windows laptop at least 30 minutes before I have to actually leave somewhere.
My biggest annoyance isn't even Windows as such, but random applications that have auto-updaters that run when the app is closed. "Okay, time to go now." "NO! I must update this app!! Do not stop this update or hideously evil data corruption will happen!!!" ...there's no excuse for this stuff. Just do it when starting the application.
[**ββββ] A stop job is running for Session c1 of User gdm (49s / 1min 30s)
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Rip the power cord out of the wall
*Holds power button on windows device
Isn't it crazy that you need a physical workaround for your operating system?
To to honest my Fedora install used to hang indefinitely 20% of the time I tried to shut it down. So I also became well acquainted with that solution
It is a last ditch effort in Linux instead of the first reaction for me in Windows.
Maybe I don't just don't respect Windows. It probably goes back to things like it deciding to do an unskippable update right before I did a presentation or trying to find some obscure .dll file for hours trying to make a program work.
I get your point though.
Fair enough considering Windows also doesn't respect you. My worst experiences were the times I accidentally clicked on "update and restart" so I just had to wait there after a long night of getting a presentation or homework done. That happened a few too many times in high school.
But I barely handle updates myself these days. I have set it to automatically* apply them live for my year on Silverblue. I have something similar for my phone updating every weekend at night considering I sleep in anyway. This post did remind me how nice it is to not have to worry (or even think) about updates.
*I do manually update between major Fedora releases. But those happen twice per year so yeah.
Sure I guess. There's plenty of things better about Linux so why lie? This meme misses the mark is all I'm saying.
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