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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago

Guess you should treat your workers better then.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GM got 47 billion dollars via the stock swap and never repaid it.

So a 100 day strike should roughly cover that.

Looks like ~~meat~~ involuntary profit sharing is back on the menu, boys!

[–] ScoobyDoo27@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

These companies have been doing so good lately with everyone only wanting trucks and SUV’s as there is insane markup on those types of vehicles. The companies can afford to pass along some of those profits to their workers.

[–] waraukaeru@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trucks and SUVs are popular. But people do want economy cars-- they've just stopped selling them. These larger vehicles classify as light trucks and don't have the same fuel economy and emissions regulations as reasonably-sized cars. It's a big scam.

[–] ScoobyDoo27@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People don’t want domestic economy cars. People who like domestic brands want trucks and SUV’s. People who want economy cars will pretty much only look at Honda/Toyota and both those manufacturers still make economy vehicles.

I have never once seen someone online recommend a ford focus or Chevy cruze to anyone. It’s always a carolla/Camry or civic/accord.

[–] Talaraine@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't claim to come with an army but I'll recommend the Ford Fusion Hybrid all day long.

I also had a friend recommend the Ford Fusion to me. It wasn't online, though.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People don't want them because they have a rep for being terrible.

And yes I own a civic. A sedan is already more car than I need.

[–] ScoobyDoo27@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s kind of my point. Why would they keep making them when they have a rep of being bad and no one buys them? People want their trucks and SUV’s

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I find the best way to change your reputation is to change who you are. If you want to be seen as making a good product you should make a good product.

They had from the early 70s to get it together. Make economy cars that people wanted to buy. Instead they continue to make bigger and bigger fuel consuming monsters. Then every recession beg for government money.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

I really thought as a kid that a good quarter for a company meant a good quarter for its employees.

[–] menningeer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

The Big Three have profit sharing. From 2022 profits, GM employees received $12,750. Ford employees get $1,000 per $1 billion in North American pretax profit. Stellantis employees got $14,760.

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

This is part of the ploy to continue that: get the employees to get pay from the union to carry signs for a few weeks. In the mean time they can sell what inventory they have at full price instead of discounts, and when inventory gets low enough they settle the contract and make more cars. there is probably some at GM who is looking at inventory levels (all those cars made in 2021 that didn't get chips), and will make an unreasonable demand if it looks like the contract is close to being settled.

This is why Just in Time is good: it forces companies to treat their people well so they are able to work when there is need.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Seems like it they're that valuable, they deserve a raise and better benefits.

[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Corporate greed could cost them $5 billion in just 10 days.

If they collaborated with the auto workers, there wouldn't be an issue.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seriously, I'm a Capitalist (and a Classical Liberal) but why do these articles always talk about how much a labor action is going to cost a company but they never talk about how much the ongoing actions of the company have cost labor?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Because then anyone who criticizes how workers get hosed can be met with "YOU JUST WANT TO COLLAPSE THE HOLY ECONOMY!!!!"

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

That would defeat the purpose of stoking fear.

[–] RadButNotAChad@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

As a car salesman, this will cost me some money. As a guy who believes everyone should be in a union and have a goodpaying job, go get it boys. Shut it down for as long as it takes.

[–] Shotgun_Alice@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Alright, let's do this.

[–] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site 12 points 1 year ago

Could cost a lot less if companies weren't shitheads, just saying.

[–] Erika2rsis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope basically everyone goes on strike. The workers don't even need to have any grievances, I just think it would be cool.

[–] Electric_Druid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I sure hope it does

[–] glacier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Too bad so sad

[–] Ryan213@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's OK, we'll all pay for it somehow.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The union backed Biden against then-President Trump in 2020, but it announced in May it would withhold its endorsement.

(That quote is from another story, because the CNBC site was being weird. https://thehill.com/business/4152444-5-things-to-know-about-a-possible-uaw-strike/)

I’m on the side of the workers, of course, but this pisses me off.

[–] nosurf@unilem.org 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why? Biden literally made it illegal for rail workers to strike

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

Right before a train derailed in Ohio and the feds allowed the cleanup crew to burn the toxic material leaving looming black clouds over the city for days.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s an emotional response, not a rational one.

[–] some_guy@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What’s rational about a union supporting a president that made strikes illegal?!

[–] Addv4@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Especially strikes that were desperately needed.