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[–] Skies5394@lemmy.ml 74 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The game's size on PC is 139.84 GB. It's 100.19 GB for the Standard Edition and 117.07 GB for the Premium Edition on consoles

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 35 points 1 year ago

Thanks, fuck the clickbait

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At these sizes I'm starting to think that game devs should just go back to physical storage.

If I'm going to have to store 100 + GB, then the storage space is now a meaningful contributor to the cost of the game. It looks like quad-layer Bluray disks can store 128 GB. I'm not sure what the cost to produce them is, but I'd be curious if it's worse than the cost players have to pay in buying more storage space for these giant games.

[–] Pseu@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

At 16x, you will get 72MB/s read speed. My SSD has a 560MB/s read speed. Because of this discrepancy, loading a game from a blu-ray disc will take roughly 7.7 times longer. A 20 second loading screen becomes a 2.5 minute loading screen. This alone justifies the cost of keeping it on my SSD. Especially because if I want to remove it I don't lose permanent access to the game, I can download it again in a couple hours.

[–] LetMeEatCake@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Consoles still have physical storage as an option, at least partially.

For PC: the vast majority of PCs don't have a blu ray drive. So that's a $50-100 expense. Or a 1 TB SSD is under $100. Going with physical media makes no sense here, even ignoring the other glaring problems, like game updates and loading times.

Cost of production of a blu ray disc will be cheap. Packaging and shipping it slightly less cheap. Dealing with a retail store exceptionally less cheap. A digital copy sold will see >95% of revenue kept (first party sales — some amount lost to transaction fees), or ~70% kept (sold on third party digital platforms). A physical sale will see closer to 50%. It's a huge difference.

[–] blakerboy777@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

As far as I know, the Xbox One and PS4 started the trend of reading nothing from the disc after install. The disc just acts as instalation media and a physical authenticator.

[–] dan@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Doing the lord’s work

[–] Dablin@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

JFC. I just set up a NAS with 32 TB Storage : 17 TB usable in Raid 5. Here I am thinking I have god level storage capacity and then keep getting reminded alot of new games keep getting released with 100+ GB storage requirements.

[–] BurningnnTree@lemmy.one 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm looking forward to Starfield, but there's no way in hell I'm playing it on day one. I got burned back when Skyrim came out and I lost eight hours of progress due to a bug.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Maybe wait a few months at least. Let the modders put the other cheek in, if you catch my drift.

[–] Gormadt@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Straight up, I'm planning to wait for reviews and some patches to roll out.

I've been playing Bethesda games for awhile and every single 3D game made by them has had some serious issues on launch.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

But if you don't pre-order, they might run out of digital copies! /s

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maybe skip it for a few months. Let the modders put the other cheek in, if you catch my drift.

[–] CraigeryTheKid@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Even a banger like BG3, if you aren't dying to play it, benefits from waiting for Patch 1, so it's generally decent advice/practice to let a game get over the first couple hurdles.

[–] sub_@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With game size becoming very huge, I sometimes hope that digital storefronts or devs would give us an option to download the game / assets depending on the configuration that we want to play under.

I still don't own a 4K monitor and have a relatively slow download speed, it'd be great if customers could choose a 1080p option to save time and space.

I remember vaguely about smart download system, announced during Xbox's stage show, a couple of years ago, but I can't remember whether it's for deciding between Xbox Series S and X, or it's for something else.

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are some games that split high-res assets into separate free DLC. I don't know how common it is, but I've definitely seen it on Steam. For example, Shadow of War does this with high-res textures and 4k cinematics.

[–] 00@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Iirc, its also the case for skyrim on steam (though not sure which edition). So its not something new fot Bethesda.

[–] sylverstream@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

Yes it does. The download size for xss will be smaller than xsx.

[–] otacon239@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

140GB for PC. Wow. That’s pretty insane. Guess I’ll be saving this for the end of the month.

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I agree that game sizes are pretty ridiculous these days. This and Baldurs Gate 3 will take up the entirety of my only space ssd. Sadly prices where I live are still decently high.

I'm sure things could be done to optimize the size. With the BTRFS filesystem, you can have things autocompress in a transparent way. So, I installed like 600gb of games, but it only took up 450gb of space because of filesystem compression. Additionally, files load like they are just a normal file.

I wonder how much space would be saved by installing this game to that filesystem.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Preload starts on August 30th on PC. Quite a difference to "now"

[–] Namstel@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

That date's for Steam.