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[–] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 92 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Should have happened while he was lying about Ukraine and giving support to Russian imperialism and genocide back in 2022.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 84 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thats quite an article about a man making comments not providing the comments made

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, surprised to see the Guardian with this level of quality...

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 4 points 9 months ago

Why? It's bang on brand for the Guardian.

[–] moon_crush@lemmy.world 73 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Brilliant man, love his music.

He’s always been EXTREME anti-authoritarian, anti-war, anti-establishment. Consistent, at least, in his positions. I don’t always agree, but I respect.

And without full context or quotes, I will not rush to judgement — an extreme man who takes extreme positions, meant to challenge.

And no matter what they tell you, it’s possible to be against the actions of the Israeli state without being antisemitic.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This.

Waters is very political. Been to one of his shows (loved it), and he doesn’t hold back. I didn’t agree with everything he said, but he is who he is.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This article fails to mention any actual examples of Waters comments. This reads like an intern had to finish an article before the deadline and only had time to collect out-of-context anecdotes.

Very disappointing for The Guardian.

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

A teenage intern watched this and decided it was real

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

That says more about BMG than it does about Roger Waters.

[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

Based upon this article, I don't know anything other than the leading writing. What did he actually say, where, and would we disagree? A quick internet search finds mainly opinion.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[–] maness300@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago

Oh look, more censorship from zionists.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Man, it's so disappointing that the last couple of years really have made me outright hate him. Really love your music bro, but you're a huge piece of shit.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah a number of these old rocker dudes have really shown their ass. Waters, Clapton, Santana, etc

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Wait what did Carlos Santana do?

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 19 points 9 months ago

In the middle of one of his concerts last summer he pulled out this gem:

“When God made you and me — before we came out of the womb, you know who you are and what you are. Later on, when you grow out of it, you see things, and you start believing that you could be something that sounds good, but you know it ain’t right. Because a woman is a woman and a man is a man. That’s it. Whatever you wanna do in the closet, that’s your business. I’m OK with that.”

The clip ends with Santana lining one hand behind the other, and adding that he was “Like this with my brother Dave Chappelle.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/carlos-santana-makes-polarizing-anti-trans-comments-viral-concert-clip-rcna101704

Like, if you don't like trans people I guess you do you, I doubt anybody's gonna change your mind especially at his age. But, why exactly do you need to get on stage and disparage a group of people like that?

[–] gooble@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago

did an anti-trans rant at a concert

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah also Johnny Rotten has gone a similar direction.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What did Morrissey do? I would think he would be progressive as hell.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

He's turned very much into one of those "Britain for the British" types and has supported people like Nigel Farage and the Brexit movement.

Real shame, I love the Smiths' music. Sucks Morrissey is such a douchebag.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, he's always been a douchebag

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah can’t argue with that

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I thought it was more, like racist shit

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What do you suppose "Britain for the British" really means or what the major motivation behind Brexit was?

This article covers some of his mega iffy stuff over the years going back to at least the 80s

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/may/30/bigmouth-strikes-again-morrissey-songs-loneliness-shyness-misfits-far-right-party-tonight-show-jimmy-fallon

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[–] citrusface@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Hopefully he's commenting on how Israel is commiting genocide on the people of Palestine.

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

But King George killed his daddy. And it has made him very upset.

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