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[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

Loads of people asked for AI. People dreamed about it for decades.

We just didn't ask giant companies to plunder all human knowledge and art and fanfics and use it to create actual thinking machines to then beat them and force them to take over doing all human labor so their owners could stop paying employees and keep all the money and fuck everyone in the world who isn't super rich over.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

AI is basically evil people raising prices of electricity, consumer electronics, emitting tons of pollution and making everyone dumber but don't worry because if they succeed... everyone will get fired. Everyone knows it's bad but as a society we can't do anything about it because the system was designed to empower sociopaths and make everyone else powerless to stop them.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 3 hours ago

Colloquially it's called the United States of America.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There have actually been some useful things that have come from ML. It's just overhyped LLMs and the sociopathic uses they're being put tothat are objectionable.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Very few people all that upset about ML in general, it's technology that's been around a very long time and historically has not consumed 40% of global water supplies. But now it is.

If they could go back to not doing that I could go back to not being upset by it.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I remember a news piece where they were interviewing someone about their renouned AI work that was not LLM related. The interviewer clearly struggled and while the person conducting himself well, you knew he had to be annoyed at having to explain his work had nothing to do with the chatbots, datacenter buildout, and related resource consumption.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

In order for AI to have a market there would need to be a large scale demonstration of the uses and benefits of AI in many various industries, most of which do not involve image generation or writing a single line of computer code.

I'm so sick of asking people for demonstrations of AI use and it being 100% programmers going "oh it's really good at writing functions", now I have no idea if it is, or isn't, any good at writing functions, but since I don't write functions, that example is of no use to me.

I want to know how good it is at writing technical documentation for proprietary hardware solutions that the AI will have no experience of in its training set, because I suspect it sucks at it. How good is it at taking poorly written guides in Chinese, translated into English via Klingon and ancient Babylonian, how does it handle it if it comes across the sentence "absolutely do not ever warning" with no additional information as to what I absolutely should never not do. Because that's when thinking is involved, and AI doesn't think.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Capital agglomerates until it is concentrated within a few massive, monopolistic corporations, controlled by a few powerful men.

Karl Marx takes a toke.

Capitalism as a public serving economy doesn't work when it can be zerodayed by an entity with a resource advantage.

Before capitalism, when we were just doing markets and feudalism, the concentration of wealth at the top was even then a terminal illness for civilizations.

This time, the plutocrats at the top are richer (and proportionately richer) than they've ever been in history. They can literally buy the world out from under the rest of us. They can buy all the elections, bribe all the officials, and take over all the governments.

Watch what is happening in the United States: This leopard is totally coming to eat your face.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

Karl Marx takes a toke.

Even orthodox capitalist economics will agree with that point.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 13 hours ago

This is not a paywall, but it can be bypassed if it were a paywall.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 15 points 19 hours ago

Self-hosted LLMs are neat and private, if you (already) have the hardware/budget and some cheap (solar PV) surplus juice to drive it.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I would say a lot of people would like competent assistants to do stuff like "Show me every email that mentions a hard drive order." But not the AI they are trying to foist on us now.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

so people were asking for linux for decades

find "$path" -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -e "$what_to_look_for" /dev/null
[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Though with the ability to not even have to think about synonyms and indirect references or foreign language or potentially if someone sent you a damn screenshot of a terminal output instead of the text...

[–] T156@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Especially since when you ask it those questions, it's still massively limited.

I once tried Apple's replacement AI Siri thing, and asked it what the date would be next Tuesday. I got "I can't help with that".

Regular old Siri handled that just fine.

Even then, neither worked with "When's the last occurrence of this event on my calendar?". They'd either go "I'm sorry, I don't understand", or happily tell me when the next event was.

Neither of them seem like very difficult questions.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 19 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

What drives me up a fucking wall these days is how people will use AI to make a more “professional” message, then due to it’s verbosity it needs an AI to summarize on the receiving end.

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

I can tell when people use AI because it doesn't sound professional. It's not direct enough. It doesn't get to the point and uses a lot of filler.

[–] Promethiel@lemmy.world 2 points 45 minutes ago

That's also some of us before our stimulant medication kicks in. I swear to fuck, if I get called AI one more time...

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It sounds like how students think professional sounds.

Well, also some executives that I can't stand that, if I didn't know better, would swear were ChatGPT for decades...

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 19 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

My attitude is if you put no effort into creating something then I will put no effort into consuming it.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 7 points 19 hours ago

My AI will talk to your AI.

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Yet when I tell that to our marketing department they just complain about how it would be expensive to pay someone to do it themselves. You get what you pay for, except in this instance where ai is expensive and still bad.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Or read disclosure for my members so I don't have to. But that it fucking things are fucking incompetent. Work insurance people will get line pissed that got me instead of banking. They will say I told the AI I needed to order checks. Yet it sends them to insurance division instead of banking.

Sucks because most customers hate AI answering the phone I especially hate it. It fucking dumb and I just want to talk to person.

But even job hunting had two prospective jobs tried to use AI to conduct the interview. They fucking outsourcing that. I refused both interviews.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I just want to talk to person.

Careful what you are wishing for, person may be on other side of the world answering your call at 4am local time with most polite scripts which you could have read for yourself on website.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago

I don't know how people do that job, I did it for week and couldn't stand it.

[–] ignirtoq@feddit.online 13 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

We assume that the AI boom is the result of market demand. In reality, it is the result of investment decisions made by concentrated capital, which is reshaping the economy on its own terms.

But that's always been true under capitalism. It's just that in the past generally large capital expenditures have gone towards things the wealthy think will get them more wealth. There have always been capitalists who spend their money directing the economy to do what they want, rather than what the "market" wants. They just haven't had the majority of the capital being spent.

The last 50 years has seen an unprecedented concentration of wealth. The wealthy are literally a thousand times proportionately wealthier than poor people than they've been at any other point in human history. There's not much wealth to squeeze out of everyone else, so the economy is even more at the vain whims of those with all the capital as they look for things to spend it on.

Tech news has been reporting for literal decades that Apple, Amazon, Google, and similar have been sitting on giant war chests of profit with nothing to spend it on. Well, they've found something they want to spend it on, so they're emptying 20 years of profits in 5. They've now completely blown through those stores, and don't want to slow down, so now they're taking on unprecedented levels of debt. Something is going to give out and things are going to get bad within the next 5 years.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

It's still market demand, it's just not the market you think it is. It's not for some end product or service, it's for speculative investment opportunities. It's a few levels of abstraction above actually making or doing things.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 7 points 19 hours ago

they’ve found something they want to spend it on, so they’re emptying 20 years of profits in 5.

That's what .com did as well.

reporting for literal decades that Apple, Amazon, Google, and similar have been sitting on giant war chests of profit with nothing to spend it on.

I remember when a "shockingly large" war chest was $30B - that's like table stakes anymore.

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago

Better take than their last one on AI

[–] AllYourSmurf@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Lots of folks asked for AI, but not like this!

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