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[–] Cryowatt@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago

The public walks into their bedroom to see this guy balls-deep in their privacy. The CEO says "this isn't what it looks like!"

[–] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

remember that flock cameras can be seriously impaired with a little spray paint

[–] lemmelemmy@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

Eh, he’ll ask for money from thiel and they’ll just throw money on to the issue and the problem would “get solved”.

I don’t believe in humanity anymore.

[–] sel@piefed.social 63 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The thing that bothers me the most is how fucking retarded these takes are. “We’re protecting the people!!” Bro we were just fine before you came in to survey us. Such a crock of shit like the only way we’ll catch crime is with these cameras and database of everyone fuck off.

Crime is declining in general, and would decline further if the money going towards mass surveillance went toward social security nets and such.

[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 148 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Get bent, fascist. You are literally Big Brother.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 64 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Worse, Big Brother is regulated. Totally legal for citizens to invade the privacy of the general public and then sell it to the govt.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, flock is just another head in the fascist hydra.

This company failing will have no impact whatsoever on the expansion of the surveillance state, or fascisms implementation of totalitarianism.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Totally legal for citizens

* companies. Companies are citizen+

[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 79 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The company has partnered with 6,000 law enforcement agencies and 1,000 private customers, leading to terrifying false arrests and even crooked cops stalking innocent women.

How can we make people see that these problems were happening before anyone had heard of Flock? Flock is just amplifying the worst things about American policing.

Flock isn't even the first system of surveillance cameras and ALPR cameras, they're just the first with national-scale panopticon ambitions.

[–] lemmyout@lemmy.zip 39 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There is this recurring theme of comments I keep seeing. "If you think this is bad, well it's nothing new, you should know what's been going on the whole time!".

That's not my attitude at all.

The basic "they really are spying on you" issue at the heart of the Flock scandal has bubbled up before, abuses have come to light before, there was alarm and pushback before, and then nothing in particular changed before, and the surveillance came to be accepted as the status quo before.

I don't want this go the same way. How can we connect this version to a bigger picture of freedom and liberty, instead of letting the news story run its course, letting it fade away, as has happened every other time?

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

The reaction they should have is “I’m glad this is finally getting attention!”

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I see it more as "This is a symptom of greater problems, we need to attack the root cause and not just react to the surface level stuff that's most obvious"

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

Why not both?

Sure attack the real cause. That's the real work, the hard work, it takes time but is the only lasting solution.

But let's not make it EASY for them! Take out the Flock cameras everywhere every time they're spotted, and fight new installations before they happen. Make it clear that public opinion is against them, that they're anti-safety implements that erode civil society and abolishing them should be the first step in reclaiming the basic rights of humanity, such as privacy and bodily autonomy.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago

also profiling protestors too.

[–] funkreddit@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago

What’s your point?

[–] antianarchist@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’d even go a step further and say that only because of Flock’s good auditing, those cases were revealed. Which means at the same time, that in the past, police officers were doing the same, just hidden.

Kinda like a “don’t shoot the messenger” situation.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That shows that we don't need more surveillance of the general population, just of cops and those that hold office.

[–] antianarchist@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

Surveillance was never the issue. Crime rate is high because people have no education, no jobs with fair salary, no future. Especially if you have a health condition, chances are that your life will be better inside a prison because of the included healthcare.

Fucked up situation. And it will take decades of recovery.

[–] walden@wetshav.ing 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

There are two of these in my little town. One of them was right outside my neighborhood and it got cut down earlier this month and I'm super happy about it.

I posted about them on F-book (it's either that or Nextdoor when trying to reach people locally) when they were first installed and there were a lot of boot lickers. "It helps the police so I'm all for it", etc.

Someone else posted more recently the the mood has shifted substantially since a year ago. People are more aware and more upset about them.

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

It helps the police track your kids.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Help! I've shot myself in the face on purpose! How can I reassure investors that I am still a capable CEO!?

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago

Maybe he can get another news interview where he uses the opportunity to call people opposed to Flock "terrorists" yet again. That ought to do the trick.

[–] TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

I bet doing it again would reassure investors. I know it would reassure me.

[–] sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fuck that guy with a cactus.

[–] johsny@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And then fuck a cactus with that guy.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago

What's the cactus done to deserve that?

[–] GolfFoxtrotLima@ani.social 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] architect@thelemmy.club 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is this the one looking at kids?

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago

He's like 12 himself. He's looking at his peers.

[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 30 points 2 days ago

Get someone braver than Luigi on the case.