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[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 331 points 10 months ago (8 children)

So, instead of getting the ability to search for videos properly, with negative search terms, user defined video length spans, exact dates, sort by reverse date order etc... we get ambient mode and color search? Can someone please, for the sake of humanity and my sanity, erase this company and its parent from the planet.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 171 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, there was a time when Google was lauded for all kinds of awesome innovation, and joked about that you needed a PhD to even be a janitor there.

Look at them now. They can't even do basic search functionality anymore, and are so misguided that they put out color filters for video.

I 100% agree they need to just stop existing at this point.

[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Arent there like Ralph from the Simpsons originating jokes about how like, this crayon tastes like yellow?

Congrats YouTube, thank you so much.

I can now enjoy green flavored content, fuck having a working suggestion algorithm that actually recommends interesting content, I guess I can use YouTube for what it seems to be intended for these days, as an ambient noise and color generator for my monitor and room while i actually do something else.

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[–] flumph@programming.dev 69 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The fact that Google started as a search company and yet search in their own apps sucks is boggling.

In YouTube Music, when you're building a tuner to create a station, you can't search at all. Instead, you get an endless scroll off bands and have to find the one you want that way. The order is random.

Like .. Pandora let you do the same thing with search back in the 00's

[–] grue@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago (5 children)

The fact that Google started as a search company and yet search in their own apps sucks is boggling.

It's not boggling; it's very simple: they discovered that having shitty search apparently makes them more money than having good search.

[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 19 points 10 months ago

Bingo!

~~Don't~~ Be Evil.

It was obvious they would enshittify, they literally told us they would.

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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Stop being so chartreuse! Would it kill you to be a little more periwinkle?

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 127 points 10 months ago (4 children)

With all the absurd turns YouTube and Google have taken, I've been looking at this for five minutes trying to figure out if this is a shitpost

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 89 points 10 months ago (9 children)

It is not, there are actual colour categories at the top of the page which allow you to filter by thumbnails. This is what the Red page looks like for me:

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't have the official app, so I choose to pretend this is a shitpost.

Haha A++ shitpost

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In my defence I use Revanced and not Newpipe only because I like to have my subscriptions and watchlist synced up between devices

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[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 90 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like a new and inventive way for them to push sponsored content on you but make it seem like you had some choice in the matter

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You've searched for Red! Here are some funny, relaxing and interesting videos from Coca-Cola, Adobe and Target!

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I'm sure they'll also share their information with "content creators" so they can all start using the most popular colors and the site can become even more generic and samey

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[–] AbsurdityAccelerator@lemmy.world 73 points 10 months ago (7 children)

There are millions of youtube videos uploaded every single day. Why do I always get the exact same stuff in my recommendations? And why does YouTube shorts keep playing the same clips over and over again? Even the ones I disliked.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago (4 children)

uBlock - copy the template in the link below, add it to "My Filters" to completely remove Shorts from YouTube:

https://letsblock.it/filters/youtube-shorts

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago (26 children)

I honestly cannot envision a scenario in which I would want something like this from YouTube.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

this is for people who arrange their bookshelves by spine color.

you know, idiots.

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[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you ever needed proof they dont know what they are doing this is it...

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 35 points 10 months ago

Or their data tells them the truth and humans don't know what we are doing...

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[–] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 56 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

Color is so stupid. Who the fuck cares what color the video is. Couldve used this to actual good like pick three minor subjects from the video and ask me if im interested in more of those. That would be awesome. And I know they have that data.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

Black History Month

Separating videos based off of color.

Never change Google.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even easier, pick video lengths.

<1min, 1-10min, 10-30min, 30-60min, 60min+.

I'd use that all the time.

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[–] Thann@lemmy.ml 48 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The recommendation algo is so bad they are testing it against a random bullshit generator....

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I fucking hate the algorithm.

I can watch 20 fucking hours of content about a subject, and it wont suggest anything similar.

but I accidentally click a link someone posts to a crazy right wing video, I get nothing but right wing violence and brainwashing fear mongering videos for over a week that I can barely break the fuck out of with hyper specific searches.

Which is the same problem facebook has, in that the algorithm favors right wing extremism and shoves people heavily down that path, and only through very significant and concerted effort can you break out of it.

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[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 48 points 10 months ago (7 children)

That is stupid. I wish it would just let me block channels for real in search. Also, I wonder how that works if you’re colorblind?

If I want something news related, that doesn’t mean I want to see Fox News or other random right wing nutjobs who scream into the camera about “wokeism” every day for 4 hours.

[–] micka190@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Things I wish YouTube would let me do:

  • See dislikes
  • Disable Shorts (uBlock lets me filter them out, at least)
    • At the very least let me control the fucking volume on Shorts instead of muting/unmuting them only if you're going to force them down my throat (seriously, it makes the entire video format unwatchable on Desktop because every fucking Short video is so god damned loud)
  • Disable holding left-click to fast-forward a video (I do this thing where I'm about to pause a video and hold down the click until they're done talking and this change is just so fucking stupid, I don't understand who needs to hold down left click to fast-forward)
  • Actually block channels I'm not interested in
  • Block videos based on keywords
  • Recommend videos based on the one I'm currently watching if my watch history is disabled
    • Seriously, since disabling it YouTube does nothing but recommend "trending" crap that has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm watching

If they'd implement even half of that, my user experience would shoot up through the roof. But, you know, they couldn't give a rat's ass about user experience.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 23 points 10 months ago

I'd also like them to fix the search. It only returns a small handful of results and then the rest is just recommended stuff not relating to the search

[–] paradiso@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I know it's been said many times, but I truly miss the old internet. Fuck this homogeneous, corporatized, spyware ridden, ad infested, data harvesting, soulless, pile of fucking dogshit called the modern internet.

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[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)
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[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Has anyone else noticed that if a video says 'like and subscribe' the subscribe button does a little animation to draw your eye to it?

Really wish there was a better way to host videos that doesn't require a multibillion dollar company's backing

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Really wish there was a better way to host videos that doesn’t require a multibillion dollar company’s backing

Archive.org. For now. But people keep uploading full copyrighted movies to it and there appears to be no content moderation, so at some point there will be a massive lawsuit and it will be shut down. And that will be an incredibly sad day because it is currently also a source of useful public domain footage like the Prelinger Archives. Without the Internet Archive, we will not have a non-commercial archive of public domain footage.

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[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Holy crap, the amount of hate in here, and no actual description of what it does. It's essentially your normal home feed, but only the videos with thumbnails of the selected color. It's also way over at the right of the home feed filters, so it isn't like it's being shoved down your throats.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Doesn't stop it from being a dumb, pointless feature.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 34 points 10 months ago

Probably another method of gathering user data for their AI training models.

I no longer think that big media corporations are doing stupid things for no reason because they're dumb

I think they do stupid things because they want another way to train their dumb AI and we're all too dumb, mindless and powerless to say or do anything about it all.

It's crazy when you think about it ... humanity is degrading itself from all corners just to raise an idiot AI child that will be just as messed up as we are.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Can I get a feed that's not insisting that I watch the same small selection of garbage for months? Thanks.

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[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

I like algorithms giving me suggestions in all sorts of ways, but not shady ones. None of the people around me seem to mind, but I worry about a company like Google strongly influencing what information we consume. Even if they didn't use this influence, it's dangerous to have them in the position where they could.

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[–] gun@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is a data collection strategy, not a feature

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[–] Minotaur@lemm.ee 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I just used it and I thought it was kind of cute. It’s obviously “useless”, but as a small (I assume temporary) change I thought it was interesting to see how different “genres” of videos tend to color code themselves in the thumbnail.

I’m all for small, fun little things in websites. Like anytime google has an interactive daily theme

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[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 21 points 10 months ago

I wonder if they are doing something worse and just overshadowing it with this weird change. Like we are using your data for training AI with no opt out BUT look at this random color picker! Don't mind the first part, LOOK! COLORS!

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

That’ll work great. More SEO to pigeonhole videos that will be abused by creators.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

How revolutionaly. How disruptive. How innovative. /s

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nice to see another intellectual Cracking the Cryptic enjoyer. A toast in your name my friend.

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[–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Wait that's supposed to be for suggesting videos? When I first saw it I thought it was just for customizing the look of the feed and was very disappointed that it changed basically nothing.

[–] Exec@pawb.social 15 points 10 months ago

Is this yet another "make something new bs feature to get a promotion" at google?

[–] pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 10 months ago

They should do it on texture instead.

  • Your red velvet cake is missing this one ingredient.
  • Ten Seinfeld quotes about wearing velvet.
  • Your mind will be blown by this analysis of “Blue Velvet”
  • All the Easter eggs in Velvet Underground album covers
  • The terrible origin of the phrase, ‘iron fist in velvet glove’

All with thumbnails of the narrator with a shocked face & an illustrated arrow pointing at something vague

[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (8 children)
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