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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 2 points 16 hours ago

We always knew it was about racism and cruelty.

[–] cloudshouter@lemmy.zip 4 points 22 hours ago

Historically (and still today) ice/border patrol has been in cahoots with the farmers and businessmen to suppress/steal wages from immigrants.
Pulling lots of people from the local economy is going to depress said economy. So yes, ruthlessly yanking people will screw everyone. Especially the working class.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

My teacher would yell at me for trying to fit a plot like that

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

TX out there doing real work

[–] reptar@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago
[–] quill7513@anarchist.nexus 22 points 1 day ago

well yeah. the slave catchers aren't there to expand the economy for the people at the bottom of the ladder

[–] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago

I agree with the sentiment but that's really a disingenuous interpretation of these data...

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago
[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Shame the people stupid enough to blame low wages on immigrants will never be swayed by something as woke as facts and numbers.

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

you can prove anything with facts... https://youtu.be/FRfnag9nAso

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

When a Billionaire dies, who gets his Senator?

[–] derAbsender@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

Its brood obviously.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml -1 points 23 hours ago

Notice I didn't have to say "their" or "her".

Old white man Senators are ruining this PLANET.

[–] West_of_West@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While there was a hope for tanistry, we couldn't get enough counties on board, we are now slipping into absolute-primogeniture.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

I get so tired of hearing about DEAD people that are NOW making more money in a month than I can in my entire lifetime.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah all we need is to just inform them with charts and graphs! That'll convince them!

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 8 points 1 day ago

Always been an effective rich people's strategy to get labor to to fight amongst themselves. Labor as a whole actually knows how to do things, and actually does the things. Rich people merely "own" stuff, and have class traitor goons willing to use violence to enforce that.

[–] Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The oligarchs are almost all immigrants and the kids of immigrants.

*Not saying that poor immigrants are the problem, just pointing out the irony

[–] grey_maniac@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I feel like corporate employers would consider slowed wage growth a positive thing.

[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

So true,the problem is that the vast majority of humans can't understand this simple concept , imagine reading a graph...

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

no war but the class war!

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder what this means. Why do the arrests affect it like that, since as an instant reaction you'd think less competition = better chance to force more pay. What did happen with employment in those sectors?

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I was wondering the same thing. Price is supposed to be set at the equilibrium between supply and demand. Fewer immigrant workers should mean less supply of workers overall. If demand for workers stays the same, the price, or wage in this case, should go up. That must mean then that demand has gone down as well. Maybe businesses in construction and hospitality are hiring fewer people overall, for related or unrelated reasons.

There is another possibility: maybe the assumption that fewer immigrant workers would mean fewer workers overall was wrong. Maybe domestic workers are applying for jobs that would have otherwise been taken by immigrant workers, without asking for higher pay. There are plenty of American citizens who need a job, even if it is a relatively low paying one. Or, maybe increased immigration enforcement doesn't necessarily mean a significant reduction in the availability of immigrant laborers. Maybe it's a combination of factors.