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Hello!

Regarding what Gamers Nexus recently disclosed regarding LG TVs in their latest video I think its finally time to do what I can to mitigate it.

I cant root it since the firmware is too new and I cant afford a new TV either. My best bet would be blocking all LG IPs network-wide and disconnecting it from the network. (Although I understand even that might not be enough, its the best I can do right now)

I was thinking of using an old Raspberry to atleast access youtube and my media server, however I dont know what would be a good OS/distro to run this on. Preferably I would want to use something like an old PS4 controller as the remote.

Anyone here who has any suggestions or living room setups to suggest? Any and all tips are welcome.

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[–] SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is the setup I've built so far:

I use KonstaKang's LineageOS Android TV build running on a pi 5: https://konstakang.com/devices/rpi5/LineageOS23-ATV/

No Google play services store at all, I just use ADB to install apps

This is the launcher I use, it's way nicer than the stock Lineage one: https://github.com/meddouribadis/arclauncher/

I use SmartTube as my YouTube client: https://github.com/yuliskov/smarttube/

I have this Bluetooth remote app on my phone for the rare occasion I need to type a password or something: https://f-droid.org/packages/io.github.jqssun.btremote

I also have KDE Connect on both my phone and TV so I can play/pause media from my phone at any time and send files (like new launcher wallpapers) easily without adb.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Old laptop, debian, Firefox, g60s remote. Done.

Im on a 2013 m93p thinkcenter tiny. Still goes hard

[–] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Im on a 2013 m93p thinkcenter tiny. Still goes hard

Heh. That's my gaming machine. Win 8.1, 2x4 GB sticks, i5-4785T, 2x Xbox 360 controllers, SSD.

I can play retro games, emulation (Wii, Gamecube, PS 2 era), indy's and PC AAA upto about 2015ish. Boots in under 5 seconds, smooth 60fps @ 720p (which is good enough for me). For a $100 "piece of ewaste", it goes hard AF.

Keep your GTA 6; Lego City Undercover local co-op is where it is at.

[–] MicKet@swiss.social 6 points 1 day ago

@Epzillon
I use #LibreElec with #Zattoo and #Netflix addon on an old Laptop. For remote control, I use a Remote with Bluetooth and Infrarot.
Currently I play around with #GamesOnWhales and its fork #Quasar for game streaming.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 48 points 2 days ago (5 children)

There's no best answer right now, Plasma Bigscreen is making good progress.

I have to imagine they'll soon be putting cellular antennas in the TVs to circumvent all that anyway.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That'll be expensive so I don't think it'll be happening. They'll be OK with collecting data from the 95% of their customers who don't know how to block the TV from having internet access.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 12 points 2 days ago

That's true even the premium brands won't halfway decent CPUs in them to keep the giant bloated menus from stuttering.

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[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (19 children)

Not a popular answer, but Apple TV is the best out of the box experience. Zero ads, massive longevity. Mine is like 7 years old and still running the latest tvOS.

If you have the cash and inclination, Nvidia Shield is the hackers choice. Zero hardware upgrades in years tho, but software aplenty.

Just don’t let your smart TV access the internet in any situation, there’s no need. It’s just a stupid display.

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Zero ads

The launcher is a massive ad for Apple's services though.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

What? There’s one icon that says “TV”. You can move it to the bottom and you won’t see any apple stuff beyond that.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Apple TV's launcher was recently "updated" to showcase whatever latest content is being pushed through Apple's own services. Which is advertisement.

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[–] LordChaos82@fosstodon.org 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

@Epzillon I have been using Plasma Big Screen for a while now and cant be happier. I use Jellyfin as my main media source, Fred TV for my IP TV service and PWA for Youtube and Netflix. My TV has been disconnected from the internet for a while now and I dont feel my kids know the difference. I also use the Rii bluetooth remote to access Plasma Big Screen interface.

[–] Valon_Blue@feddit.online 1 points 11 hours ago

That's really good to hear. I'm liking the direction my Chromecast is going less and less and I've been thinking about making the transition. It would go over a lot smoother with my partner if it's more fully featured. Have you tried it with Amazon Prime Video? That's one of the only streaming services we're still holding on to.

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[–] rotkehle@feddit.org 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] Mad_Punda@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

I wonder what kind of hardware to best run this on to watch YouTube, Jellyfin, Disney+…

I do have a steam machine on the TV anyway. Is it possible to run this on Steam OS? And without having to fiddle so much when just wanting to watch TV?

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[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

A raspberry pi running Kodi has been serving me well for years.

Easy install paths include LibreELEC and osmc. I believe both are based on debian.

FWIW I chose and have been happy with osmc.

Regardless of the choice, Kodi has a plugin system for things like YouTube, you can access your media via the jellyfin plugin/app, or by pointing Kodi at your media. It has a remote app available on android and iOS, and for the most part just works.

[–] AlThePilcrow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What model pi? I have a 5 running lxqt and it gets overwhelmed streaming YouTube videos to a computer monitor.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago

Pi4 8gb. FWIW, the 5 is not great for media. I don't remember the details, but iirc they removed hardware decoding from the 5.

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[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 days ago

Also, looking towards the future or for people that can find one at a decent price:

Not a raspberry pi but an Orange Pi Plus or Pro. They have a rockchip that has AV1 decoding (along with standard others) which is probably going to be the future (it is for corpo streaming already).

Put plasma big screen on it and get a Bluetooth wechip remote or something

[–] Surp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Open the TV and pull the wifi antennas off the board.

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

For the real "TV feeling", try ErsatzTV. It basically creates multiple real-time streams of TV shows and movies from your media library. You can switch between them like channels.

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[–] JelleWho@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey welcome to the hobby!

We personally have the whole TV on a Vlan, so it can't acces anything at all. While our server/HA can still send a WOL command to it, and jellyfin can stream our movies to it. I run all of it on top of TrueNas, most as an app or else an VM.

I have never tried to set something up for YouTube specifically, since that runs on a Chromecast (for now...)

Let me know how your journey goes

[–] papagaya@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

That sounds like a good plan. I'm fairly new to the network game, how did you setup the firewalls between TV VLAN and your home network. I would like to have home assistant and jellyfin to access the TV (e.g. HA sees 'running' status of TV, TV can connect to jellyfin) but block the rest.

Did you use port-based blocking in your firewall?

[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Me personally, I just use a Linux distro (ive used Ubuntu and popos, both have been fine) and use whatever flavor of streaming service I can access. Sometimes you're hit with lower resolution but I'd rather that than get spied on and be fed ads by my hardware.

Ive also gone back to physical media and use a DVD player. I'm just buying series I like one by one.

This video used a combination of physical media and streaming services. They relied on waydroid and with some workarounds, it worked well for them:

https://youtu.be/nROKp0BpFek?is=GFhDrr82dCCFGcVT

[–] whosepoopisonmybuttocks@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seriously, I just use my TV as a big computer monitor, connected to a cheap old computer running Linux mint.

Torrent, jellyfin, streaming. Unless you need cable, this works great.

[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Hell even if you want some kind of cable service, IP TV exists.

IMO no real reason to use android TV or a smart TV right now.

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

It's been a while for me (I don't upgrade things that work and I try to buy things that last a long time...)

But, Hotel Mode might still be a thing, and it might bypass some "smart" stuff on the TV

I used that to make my TV start on the correct external HDMI port for my MythTV instance running on Arch Linux (btw) with dual TV tuners in.

The TV is rarely used to watch live TV and it's certainly not connected to any networking.

Just another approach that I've not seen mentioned here

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