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Police scanned Flock cameras in a single town in Illinois more than 1,200 times to investigate cases of loitering.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

I miss the old Internet, where people would just post pictures of cut down cameras in their neighborhood, rather than this twee "haha, they've all got winning lottery tickets, hehe, I hope someone else does this for me"

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 day ago

Probably harassing homeless people :(

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

By next year there will be cities in which drones are dispatched to disperse any crowd of 5 or more people, anywhere the AI sees them.

[–] alakey@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago

It is unironically illegal to stand around with more than 2 people outside in russia, which maga is so adamant to follow the example of, so you are not far off.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Completely unrelated:

You can buy lasers on Temu that you should absolutely not point at a camera because it will burn it out almost immediately.

Some are especially dangerous, because they include "spread caps" that make it a bunch of dots or a design meaning you could easily accidentally put out the cameras in Flock towers or drones with a passing flash.

Because even if it's AI, it needs to see where it's flying.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could you link one, please?

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EIj59ym

Just be careful with other peoples eyes, dont even look at the dot, lasers are really bad toys

[–] northertech@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would actually suggest against pointing a class 3 laser above the horizon. I have tried to figure out how far one would be at full illumination and I had no way of measuring over 2km. Any pilot can see one from like a 10 km radius of the beam.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It 100% is dangerous.

But...

By next year there will be cities in which drones are dispatched to disperse any crowd of 5 or more people, anywhere the AI sees them.

Acceptable levels of danger depends on the situation.

Statistically speaking you're more likely to be shot if you own a gun. I'd still recommend Americans have at least a gun these days.

That's not the same as saying go drive around busting caps like it's 2016 again. Just like pointing out the cheapness of those lasers and what they do to surveillance and drones isn't telling people to buy one today and a month later when it shows up use it like a searchlight on premier night.

Things happen fast these days, if people are legitimately concerned about widespread use of government surveillance drones...

$50 can buy some peace of mind.

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, youre saying someone could be out of visual range of a camera and still take it down? Thats horrible!

[–] northertech@fedia.io 2 points 16 hours ago

I am saying class 3 lasers are not toys, they are kind of dangerous.

[–] jrTug_2T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And by the following year, top hats housing hidden EMP cannons will be all the rage.

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Finally! A use for all these gears and gauges!

[–] jrTug_2T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago

Yeah, they were already doing this with their own cameras.

I got real tired of being told to stop "loitering" by a pre-recorded voice every time I came up the alley to pick up my McDonald's order, just because someone else hates homeless people so much that they're willing to alienate their own regular customers.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I heard flock hid a bitcoin in one of their cameras like Willy Wonka's golden ticket. If you find it you get to keep it.

[–] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 2 points 23 hours ago

They also make excellent toilets, after some tinkering.

[–] Carmakazi@piefed.social 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think the flipside to all this is that over time it will legitimately damage the police's ability to do actual investigative work if all they learn and put into practice is "consult Flock" for every trivial thing. If Flock is damaged or circumvented or comes up empty, what then?

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They'll frame somebody like they always have, you think cops ever gave a fuck about investigating things?

[–] Carmakazi@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago

When the victim is themselves or their preferred clientele, sure. You think they sit on their ass if a cop gets shot during a traffic stop?

[–] vorpuni@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 3 points 1 day ago

The murder resolution rate in the USA is already very low. Police also don't have any obligations to protect or serve. They don't care.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Did you all hear? There's as platinum in a flock camera as a catalytic converter.