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[–] lepton64@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

let me guess, you are active on r/movingtonorthkorea on reddit?

Cringe.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

here's a detailed of explanation of why the idea that if you respect another society then you must want to live in it is imbecilic beyond belief https://dialecticaldispatches.substack.com/p/the-myth-of-the-default-society

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago

japan should also be american occupation zone

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

it really bothers me how common imperial speak is that when we actually name things as they should we are the ones being pointed at. calling occupied korea "south korea" should be comparable to calling people slurs. it is literally accepting and endorsing that fascism could and should rule the "lesser people". hawaii is a colony, puerto rico is a colony, japan is colony, korea is a colony, and so on, and so on, and so on.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Mostly agreed, though I think south Korea/Corea and north Korea/Corea are valid terms (specifically keeping the cardinal directions lowercase). Capitalizing the direction reinforces the idea that these are separate peoples, but frequently the distinction is necessary when discussing this or that subject, such as the fact that taxation has been abolished in northern Corea. I even more strongly prefer "northern" and "southern" as signifiers.

The problem with using DPRK and ROK alone arises when we are discussing region, not state. The illegitimacy of the ROK as a colonial state set up by the US Empire does not really help us linguistically. The Corean people are one nation, divided. Essentially, I use DPRK/ROK the vast majority of the time, and "northern/southern Korea/Corea" when discussing relational, geographic matters. When discussing the people, I do not distinguish, they are simply "Korean/Corean."

Regarding Japan, it's less a colony and more a vassal state like western Europe. The ROK is more of a direct colony. Japan benefits more directly from imperialism, whereas the ROK is a neocolonial forward operating base for the US to keep China in check.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

💯 Saying "South Korea" should be seen as no different from saying "French Indochina"

[–] 1Malayali@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago

TLDR:

The US military government in Korea (USAMGIK) from 1945 to 1948 was a textbook military occupation under the Hague Convention of 1907. The US Army landed on September 8, 1945, dissolved the nascent People's Republic of Korea (PRK), banned the people's committees that had sprung up across the south, and ruled by decree for three full years. The occupation did not end because the US "willingly" handed over power. It ended because the US unilaterally installed Syngman Rhee as president in 1948 after a UN‑supervised election that was boycotted in the north. And even then, the US did not leave. By Rhee's inauguration, US forces still numbered 16,000, and they have never withdrawn entirely.

In 1994, South Korea regained peacetime operational control of its own military. But wartime operational control (OPCON) remains with a four‑star US general to this day. Under the current Combined Forces Command structure, if war breaks out tomorrow, every South Korean soldier would automatically answer to an American commander without Seoul’s consent. It continues to be a 70‑year‑old military subordination that the US has repeatedly delayed transferring. As of May 2026, the US insists on "conditions‑based" transfer and opposes a "politically convenient" timeline. South Korea’s president himself is pushing back against this delay. And a foreign general holding final command over a sovereign nation’s military in wartime is, by any definition, continuing military occupation.

[–] Fancy_Gecko@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

the imperialists wont like this one

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 7 points 1 week ago

koriamerica

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I don't think it's a secret at this point that communists use Lemmy.ml's meme community to try to spark conversations that can make those willing to engage with the subject more sympathetic to communism. There's also the self-serving meme factor too, of course.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it's worth separating your ideal of a borderless world from the actual struggle of Koreans today to establish sovereignty. The age of a borderless world can only be achieved after indigenous sovereignty around the world.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

I agree, we do not live in a borderless world.

[–] CyroSignal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

He wants to start a war in the comments...

[–] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 1 points 1 week ago

You mean Chosŏn and Hanguk?