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More US states are considering bills allowing medically assisted death this year (www.axios.com)
submitted 9 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world
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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's like anything, regulating it is safer than pushing it underground.

If we lived in a civilized society we'd all have healthcare and they could require x amount of counseling or requiring some kind of waiting period and we'd likely see a drastic decrease in heat of the moment incidents.

People wouldn't risk most "at home" methods if there was an alternative that required a slight postponement.

And if it self identify people who desperately need mental healthcare, we'd likely see a decrease in mass shooters as well since most are suicidal and feel they have no exit. If they expressed interest in a program with mandatory counseling, lots of innocent bystanders as well may be saved.

We need to start thinking about what really helps and not just going with gut feelings.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't have a terminal illness, but I sure wish suicide booths were a thing.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My wife and I are not having kids. If we are very elderly, we talk about how we would want to do something like this once the other one goes. We assume we will be alone as no one we know is having kids and we are all aging out of baby making age.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Kinda the same situation for me and my wife. I don't want to be so old I can't function and I certainly don't want my wife to have to experience this life alone, but I really don't want to be here.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah if I got terminal illness with no cure some Republican law makers would be in trouble....

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Might as well die with your boots on. Take that as you will.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Because if your body can no longer be used to make money for rich people through your labor, the government is pretty much okay with you being dead as you are less of a tax burden.

Only the pharmecutical industry is against this because people dying early cuts into their profits of shoving meds down their clients throats that treat symptoms but don't cure them endlessly.

Everyone else is pretty much happy to see anyone who can no longer be bled dry being ground to dust.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

While all of that is true, it ignores the simple fact that we provide more dignity to our pets than to other humans when it comes to terminal illness. Pets? Euthanasia is considered humane if the animal is suffering and can't be helped. Humans? Hah, fuck you. Suffer until you die.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Well animals deserve it. They're perfect. Humans by and large fucking suck.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

This guy fucking gets it.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What's the minimum age and do you have to be sick?

[–] Montagge@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oregon's Death With Dignity Act:

A: To participate, a patient must be: (1) 18 years of age or older, (2) capable of making and communicating health care decisions for him/herself, and (3) diagnosed with a terminal illness that will lead to death within six months. It is up to the attending physician to determine whether these criteria have been met.

As of March 2022, the Oregon Health Authority is no longer enforcing the DWDA's residency requirement.

https://www.oregon.gov/oha/ph/providerpartnerresources/evaluationresearch/deathwithdignityact/pages/faqs.aspx#whocan

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So, if you're in a hell of a pain that will continue to your death 50 years later, you don't qualify. I don't really understand the rationale here.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You might be able to still work and consume so they want you to stick around.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Dead peasants don't pay taxes.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You are gross.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Why?

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I know right? At some point I'll just be ready to end this shithole capitalist hellscape existence, even tho not technically "my time".

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The only reason I'm still here is because I'm the caretaker of my mother, who has dementia. When she goes, I go. I would prefer it to be painless. Medically assisted suicide should be legal.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You matter. Go out and see the world first.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I know you're trying to be supportive, but you don't know their situation, what they've done in their life, and why they've chosen this. It comes across like you know better or that they can't already know what they want and what the ramifications are.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

And you don't know if the other person is crying for help, wants to talk or really decided to give up. Never bad idea to at least give a chance for a conversation - especially online where people can just ignore you if they feel like it.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I appreciate the thought.