this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2026
360 points (98.6% liked)

TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

7546 readers
1292 users here now

/c/TenForward: Your home-away-from-home for all things Star Trek!

Re-route power to the shields, emit a tachyon pulse through the deflector, and post all the nonsense you want. Within reason of course.

~ 1. No bigotry. This is a Star Trek community. Remember that diversity and coexistence are Star Trek values. Any post/comments that are racist, anti-LGBT, or generally "othering" of a group will result in removal/ban.

~ 2. Keep it civil. Disagreements will happen both on lore and preferences. That's okay! Just don't let it make you forget that the person you are talking to is also a person.

~ 3. Use spoiler tags. Use spoiler tags in comments, and NSFW checkbox for posts.
This applies to any episodes that have dropped within 3 months prior of your posting. After that it's free game.

~ 4. Keep it Trek related. This one is kind of a gimme but keep as on topic as possible.

~ 5. Keep posts to a limit. We all love Star Trek stuff but 3-4 posts in an hour is plenty enough.

~ 6. Try to not repost. Mistakes happen, we get it! But try to not repost anything from within the past 1-2 months.

~ 7. No General AI Art. Posts of simple AI art do not 'inspire jamaharon'

~ 8. No Political Upheaval. Political commentary is allowed, but please keep discussions civil. Read here for our community's expectations.

Fun will now commence.


Sister Communities:

!startrek@lemmy.world

!theorville@lemmy.world

!memes@lemmy.world

!tumblr@lemmy.world

!lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world

Want your community to be added to the sidebar? Just ask one of our mods!


Creator Resources:

Looking for a Star Trek screencap? (TrekCore)

Looking for the right Star Trek typeface/font for your meme? (Thank you @kellyaster for putting this together!)


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 57 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I never understood the "divert power from life support" trope of Star Trek.

I mean, how much power could that possibly be?

We essentially already sustained prolonged life support by using a tiny batch of primitive batteries and fuels cells during multi-day trips to reach the moon in the sixties.

With efficient 23th century tech, life support should be almost self-sustaining using ambient waste heat or something.

Always has been one of the major suspension-of-disbelief efforts for me...

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Air-conditioning is pretty power intensive and The Enterprise is a big ass ship. That's not even counting the other things life support does (like heat and CO2 scrubbing), just the air circulation.

But even on the show, there's been a couple times where they mention the power from life support is nearly negligible. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

[–] skribe@piefed.social 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wouldn't gravity generation and inertial dampners be part of life support? Going max impulse after turning those off is likely to end up with a lot of raspberry jam coating the walls.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Inertial dampeners probably not; that just stops the ship when not giving any thust because there's nothing to slow the ship down in space once it has momentum. The fake gravity on board tho, may be part of it. Not sure how the gravity plating is supposed to work; but I would be willing to bet there is technical documentation about it somewhere. Unless they just, like... Constantly barrel roll to create "gravity" that way πŸ€” (gravity in quotes as it would actually be centripital force).

[–] alpine_jim@piefed.social 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Inertial dampers are how the crew can survive high-g maneuvers, they'd be pinned to the back wall and have their skulls crushed by their own faces if they suddenly went to full impulse or warp without them active.

[–] jesusactuallyhateshorses@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I loved how The Expanse handled high speed turn and burn in space.

Fuck Syfy.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty well convinced that gravity plating has to be negligible power draw or possibly even passive technology, since they've boarded centuries-old derelict ships that still have artificial gravity. Maybe the gravity plating contains some exotic space-warping material that generates a gravity field. That could also explain the times when someone becomes intangible and can walk through walls, but don't fall through the floor.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Air-conditioning is pretty power intensive

And then, when life support fails everybody freezes for some reason.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Air-conditioning is pretty power intensive

Even that should still be minuscle compared to getting rid of the waste heat from a huge antimatter reactor.
Feels like trying to get your Ferrari faster by switching of the cockpit instrument illumination. Not even worth giving the command.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How does transferring heat out of a ship work? On the one hand, it's really cold in space, but on the other, there's no substrate to absorb and transfer the heat.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

From a thermodynamical standpoint, the whole Enterprise is something of a mess.

But, hey, if you already have a "Heisenberg-Compensator", also having a "Boltzmann-Compensator" is probably not that implausible... ;-)

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And you can always re-arrange the sensor arrays if you're ever really in a pinch, but it'll take some time.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would consider reversing the polarity first!

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But that could destabilize the tachyon field; is it worth risking a temporal anomaly?

Maybe if we invert the thingamajigger coils we could prevent that.

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Thermal Radiation, you send it somewhere else. It’s how the sun heats our planet.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)

This guy treks

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is an episode where Voyager is looking for a fuel source because they are dangerously low.

They cram all the staff into two decks and pull all life support from the other thirteen. It only gets them an hour of propulsion at one-quarter impulse thrust.

It only gets them an hour of propulsion at one-quarter impulse thrust.

Which is basically classical atomic sublight rocket tech.
So some additional ability to just coast between planets when you are already in a star system.

[–] 13igtyme@startrek.website 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's just written in to add weight to a tense moment.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s just written in to add weight to a tense moment.

I know the reason why they did it.

Still annoys me slightly. Actually even more than the techno-babble that is mentioned by most as a somewhat annoying thing written in.

But I don't watch Star Trek for its scientific accuracy, so it's ok.

As already said: It is still manageable by suspension of disbelief to enjoy the strong aspects of the show, which mostly are not the specifics of the science-based things being shown (in contrast to the underlying ideas - those are often great!)

[–] 13igtyme@startrek.website 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I realize now I should have answered the question differently. The life support uses power by a reverse band of takiyons to a flow emitter. This then spread across the ship via a neutrino wave to a tungsten pulse generator.

That's why it uses so much power they have to divert it at times.

My own head-canon that I subconsciously develop while watching those parts of the show, is actually strikingly similar to what you just said! ;-)

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Moreover, what exactly is the life support system doing that means near-instant death if you turn it off? Breathable air and heat should last for hours at least.

Exactly.
Not only is the power requirement pretty low in comparison, but the system should also show a really sluggish response, especially when considering the sheer air volume of the Enterprise.
Biggest issue would probably be heat buildup after some time

[–] justdaveisfine@piefed.social 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

FTL moment.

"I don't need oxygen, just enough power for the lasers... Oh."

[–] Benign@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago

Also a very CEO thing to say.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 4 points 1 week ago

On the plus side all of the fires went out.

[–] Kojichan@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everyone knows you turn off your A/C in your car to get it to go faster!

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you have a shitbox, it can.

[–] Kojichan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So, anything before 2010? Got it.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wouldn't know. I've never owned or drove regularly anything that was made after 99.

[–] Kojichan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My old 2008 Ford Focus was like that. Really weird. Guess it was just harder on the system. Ah well. It's in a better place now

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 week ago

It's not weird at all, it's actually normal. You're running a compressor alongside your transmission when you turn on A/C. Modern systems are more efficient but there's no such thing as free energy, it will still have an effect, especially on fuel efficiency.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's in a better place now

The Netherlands?

[–] Kojichan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ahahah! I wish. I had to sell it for scrap. The bottom was all rusted, and the frame was slightly bent. It kept leaking moisture inside.

The stereo sounded amazing though, for a stock one.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That bridge is huge it would take hours or days for them to suffocate, also, how power hungry is that life support system that often is enough to make a difference? Do they use replicators instead of fans?

[–] WagnasT@piefed.world 12 points 1 week ago

I assume since they are on a ship for several years that life support also handles bio waste, CO2 scrubbing, and anything else to keep the ship habitable. It would probably still be negligible but maybe rearranging molecules takes a fuckload of power, idk.

[–] CheesyFingers@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Related: I passed out after sex once. lol

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 4 points 1 week ago
[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Data just looking back, unaffected.

[–] neidu4@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is realistic in that they divert power from anything before gravity generation.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

"Why can't we route power from gravitational engines?"

"The show's budget cannae afford such excess, Cap'n"

"What's that, Scotty?"

"The- uh- the dilithium core only works properly in a gravity field, Cap'n. We'd lose more power than we'd save."

"Ah yes, that makes sense"

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The artificial gravity is a byproduct of the inertial dampeners. You don't mess with the inertial dampeners unless you want the crew the slam into a bulkhead at .999C.

They could, because grav plating holds a residual charge so they'll be able to maintain gravity for a period of time before people start floating

[–] krakloskewm@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

A bold maneuver but also wise

Divert all power from inertial dampers to evasive manevers!

splat

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How did Picard get all the way over there?

He did his bridge shake hula with EXTRA pizzazz!

[–] Janx@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, but think how fast they'll be!

load more comments
view more: next β€Ί