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[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

The problem with floppy discs is that they are performing a service that price gouging private contractors could be doing. Unfortunately there are still government agencies that are saving tax dollars by sticking to so-called "legacy" systems that are well understood and are as near to perfected as they can ever be.

It’s just unfair competition. How can they compete with old tech that just works. And works without an LLM shoved in it... hell, they don't even need to connect to a company server!

Tech bros will see to it that every aspect of the public sector is loaded down with broken enshitified proprietary spyware garbage that require regular service subscriptions.

[–] Lutra@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

System has been running on floppy disks for 50 years... people : "Floppy disks are not reliable!"

[–] Rubanski@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are they finally switching to zip drives now?

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Punch cards, you see it in the upper left corner.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Old tech is solid and reliable. Do you really want the modern tech ethos of "move fast and break stuff" to apply to Air Traffic Control? I wouldn't trust the big tech companies to write software for red-lights without killing people.

[–] urandom@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

First time I’ve heard a floppy disk being referred to as reliable

[–] halloween_spookster@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago

Old tech still requires maintenance and replacement parts. This tech is so old that they can't effectively provide either. I 100% agree with you that you don't want to "move fast and break things" but there does need to be a program to upgrade over time to deal with the maintenance and replacement problems, as well as improve capabilities and safety. The fact that some ATC systems completely crashed in recent months, leaving air traffic in a very dangerous state, is evidence of this problem.

[–] vext01@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Floppy disks are not reliable!

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

I grew up with floppy discs. Once we had hard shells on them they were fine. I never had one fail.

Did have some MBR viruses back in the day though.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Moving away from floppy discs in 2026 is moving fast and breaking things? Peak Lemmy moment.

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The floppy disk is 60 years old. In which universe is migrating away from 60-year-old technology "moving fast and breaking stuff"?!

[–] wibble@reddthat.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck. You just reminded me of my age.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, me too. I can't move fast anymore, but I can certainly break stuff 🤣

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

You saw me, uh?

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What are they moving to? Because that's what the comment is referencing. The new tech they are moving to, not the old tech.

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I know it’s a rethorical question but from what I’ve seen they updated their "information display".

In my country our equivalent is an in-house Java software running on Linux thin clients. The software basically shows meteorological information, runways status, airspace status and stuff like that, so it is connected to a network in order to receive those informations.

So I’m wondering why FAA used the floppy disks? Was it to update the information? MET is updated every 30 minutes, day and night. That’s a handful of manual updates to do…

PS: Their brand new "Enterprise Information Display System (E-IDS)” is what we do in Europe since, uhh, 30 years ?

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[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 2 days ago

Sorry but 'Floppy' and 'reliable' in the same sentence... is odd.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

It's not so much that new tech is bad ... new tech could be made to be ten times safer than what we have now.

The problem is that the new tech is controlled by psychopaths who want to squeeze as much profit out of everything imaginable ... imagine all that new tech controlling air traffic but its all locked up by proprietary software that would hold entire airports, agencies and governments hostage, or be made available to the highest bidder and even for international opponents or enemies ... and all of it up for grabs for profit and regardless of morals, ethics or human decency.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Floppy discs reliable? I remember mine not working if I transported them in my backpack when it was cold outside. They came back to life when "thawed", but I'd prefer airliners use something better!

[–] username_1@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Clay slates have rather modest data density, but reliability is top.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh yeah then where are the other parts of the Gilgamesh saga? Check mate big slate.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Somebody out there is thinking "why not vibe code it and get it done by AI fast?"

[–] Napster153@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Billionaires start dropping out of the sky because ChatGPT told them to nose dive into the tarmac.

[–] horus_son_of_isis@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Stop trying to seduce me.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hear AI would make a great traffic controller. Surely you wouldn't regret replacing human traffic controllers with AI.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

If Ronald Reagan were alive today, he'd be all about it.

[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is going to devastate the floppy disc industry.

Yeah, didn't Japan recently make a move away from floppys too for sone goverment stuff? Big floppy is going to take a dive on the stock market.

[–] 3laws@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Goodbye S&P500 floppy was its last true champion.

Interesting, didn't know we were like Japan like that

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Other countries would be horrified to hear that critical infrastructure had been so neglected, but this is just another day in the US of fucking A

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

It's way more common than you think.

If something works then you don't need to fix it.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There was actually a benefit to being behind the curve on this.

The scheduling is done on modern machines, the actual flight control console is a glorified comms station with a very beefy audio recorder.

It's built to last, and to be as reliable as possible, while still being repairable by a skilled technician.

Any update needs to be as solid and reliable as what it replaces. That's the key, not being advanced or some shit.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

It really is a crazy country. I can't imagine the stress of living there.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It's fairly typical of aviation around the world

Old is safe, and if it's reliable, why change it?

We just add new layers on top of the old system

For the record, whole lot of planes using floppy disks too

[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 1 day ago

The US needed floppy disc to launch nukes until a few years ago.

Still, not really US exclusive. The German Navy also still uses them.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Sounds like they actually only entered the 20th century.

[–] dou9m@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I don’t trust it happening well under Trump so I’m going to take this as a sign to be prepared for far more crashes in the next two years.

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