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  • The IRS on Thursday unveiled plans to target wealthy “non-filers” with a new round of compliance letters.
  • Non-filers making between $400,000 and more than $1 million with unfiled federal returns from tax years 2017 to 2021 will receive the initial round of letters.
  • The agency urges recipients to take “immediate action” to avoid more letters, higher penalties and “stronger enforcement measures.”
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[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 62 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Non-filers making between $400,000 and more than $1 million with unfiled federal returns from tax years 2017 to 2021 will receive the initial round of letters

Blows my mind that people earning that much aren't filing their taxes. It's hard to imagine that they're oblivious to the requirement, so they're just blatant cheaters?

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Were you "audited" or actually audited? So many people say they were "audited" when they actually just received a letter asking them to support what they claimed. An actual audit is a full review of absolutely everything to re-build up your returns from scratch and verify every little detail. Even for basic returns audits often take multiple days to complete.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I paid my taxes with bill pay, they cashed the checks, but didn't apply them to the tax year because apparently they need to know the year to apply it to.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

That's crazy.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

What?! How'd that turn out?

[–] dimath@ttrpg.network 2 points 8 months ago

They not necessarily not paying taxes, just not filing.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago (4 children)

The agency urges recipients to take “immediate action” to avoid more letters, higher penalties and “stronger enforcement measures.”

I'm glad they added those two last ones, but why more letters at all? "Stop or we'll tell you to stop again" isn't much of of a threat.

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago

The US government lives on paperwork. One of the most important things one can do in the government is generate paperwork to prove you have generated paperwork. It seems like a hopelessly pointless exercise, until said paperwork is used to bury someone in court. It removes any doubt that the target of the action was aware of their obligations and the possible results of failing those obligations.

[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago

I hear you, but I think this might be a step up: It sounds like... they never event sent notices to wealthy non-filers in the past! (If I've misunderstood, please correct me. I'm embarrassed to admit I did not read the original article.)

And seeing as they're sending notices now, perhaps this means they'll follow through with making sure this gets done. One can hope...

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I understand that we don't have a debtors prison in the USA, and that's a good thing, because it would be unfairly used against the poorest.

Meanwhile, we've got to stop pretending people like this can and should be tried for failure to pay their taxes. It's not like with poor people, where they simply don't have the money to pay it, these people clearly have the money and have no intent to pay it. At that point we should be raising it to the crime of tax dodging and start actually fucking arresting people and dispensing with this pussy-ass strongly worded letter shit.

[–] yukichigai@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

If nothing else, it pretty well cuts off any claims they might make about not being aware they were not in compliance. It speeds cases along once they do get to court, plus there's the prospect of fines, so on.

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 23 points 8 months ago

The new wave of letters comes amid IRS plans to reverse “historically low audit rates” of large corporations, complex partnerships and higher earners.

Fruit from the GOPs kneecapping of the IRS.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

And if you don't think about what you did we'll send you another letter, even more strongly worded.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

“Nah, we’ll just wait for Trump to get into office. The Supreme Court has given us the green light.”🚦

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can we start with people of the orange persuasion and their minions?

[–] Syo@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

$400,00 and not filing? Assholes. Get'em Joe!