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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It’s what the market demands, for better or worse.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

It's what plants crave

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No it's what the makers offer

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And why do you think that is?

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Higher profit margin mostly.

A root factor was the CAFE standards excluded trucks so manufacturers built SUV's on truck chassis to comply, and then could put more pollution in them at lower cost, plus again, bigger profit margin.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If there wasn’t sufficient demand then profit margins mean little. Ultimately the driving factor is that SUVs and crossovers are what (American) consumers want. So that’s what is being built.

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Agree to disagree

[–] invertedspear@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

There are a dozen or more cars out there, crossovers and SUVs are what marketing tells them to make. That and dodging fuel efficiency requirements. Take a look at Fords entire lineup, EV and gas. The only car is the Mustang.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Ok, the R3 looks pretty rad. I’ll bet money that they’re targeting $39k. If they can manufacture in the US and go even lower, that would be impressive.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I want a bloody car. I hate that SUVs are the norm now.

[–] invertedspear@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

Tesla S, Tesla 3, Fiat 500e (kind of), polestar, lucid air, Bolt, focus ev (didn’t make many), ionic, Taycan (if you’re rich), etron gt, bmw i7, genesis g80, EQS.

I probably missed a few, and possibly a couple of these are hybrids, my memory isn’t perfect. The point is there are plenty out there, and some are very affordable on the used market.

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't get the hate for SUV's but I love them. Just put a deposit down on a Polestar 3.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
  • they’re heavier, which negatively impacts efficiency in many respects
  • they’re physically larger and tend to be boxy, both of which induce substantially more aerodynamic drag, and had serious implications on pedestrian safety as well
  • all else being equal, they have a higher center of gravity, which impacts stability and driving dynamics when compared to cars
[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Sure, they are heavier but trucks are even heavier and all EV's are heavier than their ICE competitors. The Polestar 3 I ordered is quite aerodynamic so not all SUV's are the same in that regard. All EV's have a much lower centre of gravity than ICE vehicles (but still higher than an EV car) so your point is valid.

The Polestar 3 has an air ride suspension with a torque vectoring dual clutch rear end which makes performance amazing. At least based on my research as they're not really out in the wild yet.