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Do you want there to be an explicite anti tankienrule? or are the current rules which ban them in practice, but dont say it out loud enough? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by Zstom6IP@lemmy.world to c/leftism@lemmy.world

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currenrly under or rules people who are being tankies would be breaking multiple. but would you rather have this be made explicit in an anti tankie rule?

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[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To avoid the appearance of bias and provide a more agnostic rule that I think makes sense beyond just tankies, I think a better presentation of a rule like this would "No promotion of authoritarian ideologies or actions".

While the existing rules do reference fascism, there are subtle differences, and more importantly fascism is a buzzword right now that invites ideological arguments, trolls, etc

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm 100% behind this concept. Authoritarianism is wrong, left or right. Focusing on that doesn't single anyone out. Is rather fair and unhypocritical. Clear and easily defensible. Less likely to break down into name-calling.

I definitely have very little love for ML and their more extreme brethren that logically flow from the flawed ideology. But outside the authoritarianism there can be a lot of agreement and even ideological overlap. Better to have good faith debate and rescue those from the authoritarian extremes where we can. Rather than unduly alienating them off the bat.

[–] Zstom6IP@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

That could be a good idea.

[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

To make a long comment short:

Yes

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Banning should be determined by conduct, not political affiliation.

[–] Zstom6IP@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The rule if implemented would be conduct based.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The way the OP is phrased is explicitly targeting a specific political position.

[–] Zstom6IP@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its just honesty about how the rules are structured.

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Let's also be real: some political positions should be smothered with a steel pillow

Tolerating intolerance is a losing strategy

[–] Zstom6IP@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

thats true