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What do you think of these and others characters of Star Trek if they ever granted such artifact?

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[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Hmm... fun idea!

I feel like Worf would reject it as a dishonorable way to kill one's enemies.

Jadzia would probably study it, kind of like an L, trying to learn the rules and loopholes.

Bashir... medical ethics prevents his using it?

Quark.... hahaha, oh nooooooo!

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Quark would talk a big game about using it or selling it (or both) but then just lock it up or something and pretend it never existed. Despite all appearances, he does have a conscience.

Garak, on the other hand...

[–] MajorasMaskForever@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Hey now, simple tailor Garak would just be practical. It would indeed be the safest way

[–] Jesus_666@feddit.de 16 points 8 months ago

Or maybe Jadzia would wink at the camera and write down "Rick Berman's career".

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 months ago

Quark's Death Note would be one good rounded episode of him creating a market of paid assasinations – before a real pro assassin who is out of contracts due to this would take it and, threating to put Quark in the list, would steal it for themselves and disappear.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Quark… hahaha, oh nooooooo!

Someone is late on their 'stay alive' subscription payments...oh well!

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

Cause of death: unnatural latinum deficiency.

[–] ItsAFake@lemmus.org 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Garak: can I get another one? Mines full already.

[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

Alternatively: Garak calls Dukat every now and then just to tear pages out and throw them away.

[–] LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Garak just writes, "See included item labeled 'Exhibit 1' admitted to the record." along with a 1200 page document he's spent several decades amassing.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Death, even at this time, is a disturbingly usual occurence. If I'd mourn every poor soul dying in the universe, I'd have no time running that shop. How can I afford to even shed a tear? That's, my friend, is probably a little lesson to you. If something is as inescapeable as death, you can't say it's untimely or unpredictable. That's just terms of our contracts, and let's treasure our time for it runs out as we speak.

[–] match@pawb.social 7 points 8 months ago

And then he destroys it to hide the evidence.

[–] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Damar:

 n = 1
 while True:
      print( "Weyoun " + str(n) )
      n + 1

Which begs the question, can a Death Note kill someone before they exist, if you already know their name and face?

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can probably put a delay according to their birthdate to make an abortion. I'd be only troubled how a chain of deaths can cause a butterfly effect on the situation.

Also, if DN's effect is imminent, could it also prolong life by setting it decades after?

Series aren't liked for being smart, but it's interesting to explore these terms.

[–] eva_sieve@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The rules of the death notes generally have time limits in the tens of days. They can only control+kill a person for 23 days, and the pre-filled death methods (such as how Light killed Raye Pember) are said in supplementary text to only work for 19 days.

I imagine that first clause would prevent any significant life altering shenanigans.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

That's an interesting thing I didn't remember. Thanks.

I'd wonder how much of the rules are actually true and if Ryuk tested Light if he can break them. One of things he did is letting not-owner fill the names of the agents in the blank form and using torn pages. Although it isn't condemned, it's half-right. The not-owner wasn't contacted by the God of Death and their code seems to be inclining that, as using one of such devices is basically a deal with the devil. I wonder if it can be pushed further.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

Your snippet is slightly flawed. You need a sleep statement or else it will start eating though tons of resources

[–] Australis13@fedia.io 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I can see O'Brien thinking about using the Death Note, followed by Keiko yelling "Miles!" at him and hence resigning himself to beam it into space.

I doubt any of the DS9 characters would end up with a god complex like Light does, but I agree with the other comments that Garak would probably get the most mileage out of it and come up with some very inventive ways of dispatching people. Sisko would probably work out that Garak had the Death Note, but never be able to prove it nor that he'd used it.

[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

Garak absolutely has the skill and resources to do it without the death note(see the whole romulan senator thing). Moreover, his dad would see it as cheating and probably disapprove.

I think he'd tease Dukat that he has it, pretend to destroy it in front of Dukat, then in the Dominion invasion he'd kill "The Great Link."

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The title line about Kira ruins the punchline

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Note taken.

Cut it.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

S3E02 - O'Brien eats chips

S5E07 - Odo eats a cupcake

S7E25 (series finale) - Ducat eats an apple

All other episodes - Nothing happens for 45 minutes

I really don't understand death note's popularity

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Legit opinion. I find the second half being like that, and I've seen many hold the same opinion. If you care, I tried to remember it and highlight some points.

  • Solid art direction and big animation budget (was it Madhouse studio?);
  • Like many media, they are selling two characters-stereotypes and their dynamic - hard-disciplined OCD narcissist and his complete opposite (that's why after one dies show loses my interest), both looked different to what average movies do;
  • Writers took a couple of twists about how Light creatively secures himself and kills people with notes and they are fun to see as much as Sherlock's explanations of his logic solving a crime;

But what I want to single out: it was made for teenagers and young adults. Confusion about their lives, wish for some superpower or direction, being able to overturn the frustration of their first boring work. With a shade of phylosophical themes that make them feel like it makes them clever, with guessing what if they end up in the same position, with bleeding edginess of deaths, god complex, acts that can be rightfully called terrorism (plus it's geeky and cool if you watched it when anime wasn't mainstream at your place - it's a kind of a community, and for some - their personality trait). If you don't consume a lot of media and DN became your first anime somewhere between 12 and 22, you'd probably like it.

And it usually kills it when you leave this age group, don't like edginess, fog of intelectualism, not only ill but just immature characters, everything turning around them and don't feel like watching episodes just to see these characters' tricks and quirks. And what can come from psychotyping (yeah, this geeky horoscope) there's no emotional information coded into the series, just pure 'we see these smart men outsmarting each other' and rotating the rules of Death Note like a rubik's cube that is problematic to many people - I'm the opposite, I don't find relationship drama even IRL interesting, but I understand the opposite can be as empty on the other end.

So, as all media, it's a matter of taste and background.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This may be one of the highest quality responses I've ever gotten on the internet.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

I sincerely hope it'd be topped. Folks on Lemmy seem good-willing and welcoming enough for that (:

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I don't think that's Kira. She looks all stretched out. I think Odo is trying, and still failing, to look like a humanoid.