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I find this mildly infuriating, I only use Windows for work, I even personally purchased Windows 11. Local account and disabled as much as I could. I personally do not like Windows or Windows in general.

Well, now I do an update and they throw this up like I need to walk thru these steps (again). Not even a "Skip"/"Don't remind me again". Windows is not what it used to be and after disabling half the Microsoft stuff I'd expect not to be bothered again. It's really a built in ad more then anything.

2023-08 Cumulative Update Preview for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5029351)

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[–] kavkya@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago (12 children)

So many comments shitting here and not giving helpful advice at all, so so fucking stupid. The best way to get ahead of this would be when the next time this pops up, press Shift + f10 and then type "OOBE\BYPASSNRO" easy and simple, takes only a few seconds and makes everything more seamless, such as no one drive bullshit etc..

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Easy and simple

Dont forget to shit on linux afterwards for how difficult it is

[–] RogueSensei@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Honestly I find constantly having to keep on top of disabling questionable windows features and bloat (knowing I've definitely missed something) more difficult and exhausting than just using linux. Linux feels way more "easy and simple" to me than windows ever has been.

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[–] devils_advocate@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then delete system32 folder?

What are these instructions actually doing?

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[–] KrisND@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I'll give that a try, thank you.

[–] Jaybob32@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I believe this method was blocked. But it's also not what the screen shot is. This is an update screen.

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[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Remind me in 3 days. That shit should be against the law. There should be a don't bug me ever again option.

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[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's actually a good thing IMO, Microsoft is giving people more reasons to switch to Linux. How kind of them!

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[–] CheezyWeezle@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Eh, this particular screen is kind if misleading. You say you dont see a "skip" or "do not remind again" button, well that's because those buttons are on the next screen(s) for each individual feature. I've gotten this screen a couple times, just click through and you can skip/opt out of all the features. It's kind of silly, but I think the point is that they want you to look at each new feature individually.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 11 points 2 years ago

Yeah, but nothing here would be considered as a "new feature" and each is an ad for a product that OP chose not to use during initial install. As such, s/he shouldn't be reminded of them, especially not during an OS update and certainly not with an unskippable window. Yes, s/he has the option to skip each feature individually later, but this initial window is either a "remind me later" or a "do it now".

To get into specifics of each item:

OneDrive has been around forever.

If OP customized his/her browsing experience, s/he clearly doesn't want "Microsoft recommended browser settings" (which, by the way, is Edge with Bing search and with all telemetry turn on high).

365 has been around for a while, and this thing is pushing the subscription (by definition, an ad for a paid product).

Windows Phone app isn't new, either.

Microsoft Hello has been around for about as long as Windows Phone app and features.

[–] Kethal@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Then this screen itself is misleading, because it gives no indication that you don't need to do the stuff. It should have the X to close the screen, like every other window that isn't malware.

[–] ronflex@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We can bitch all we want but their dollars still go up

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[–] Jaybob32@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Go to Settings > System > Notifications. Turn off the last three check boxes. This screen won't come back.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Through the door with the sign "Beware of the Leopard".

[–] TheHighRoad@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Windows is actually right back where it used to be, to be honest. Getting pretty tired of the whole "ecosystem" tech philosophy.

[–] dcooksta26@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (8 children)

You can prevent this. Click remind later then go to your notifications in the settings app. Uncheck "Suggest ways I can finish setting up" and anything else you don't want to see.

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Alternatively: You can prevent this. Use a different operating system.

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[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Local account and disabled as much as I could

2023-08 Cumulative Update Preview for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems

Why are you running updates for beta testers, if you decided to disable as much as you could? Those "Preview" updates will install everything you're missing and more every time, that's their purpose.

Switch to stable updates only, and you won't have that problem... or at least have it way less often.

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[–] famousringo@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Windows is nagware now. Microsoft dared to imagine an entire OS on the Winrar model.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 18 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Its actually worse than that. I PAID for Windows. If I paid for WinRAR they would stop.

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[–] Erk@cdda.social 5 points 2 years ago

Don't you compare windows to that time honoured and helpful software. WinRAR knows when to quit, and is free

[–] xoagray@pawb.social 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The thing that really rubs me the wrong way about all this is we pay for Windows, I have 3 licenses for Windows 11 and it's gotten so annoying that I don't even use them anymore. I've been a Linux user for quite a while already and between Microsoft's doing more and more data collection, and more ads, I just walked away from it a couple years ago. Fortunately, I was in a position where I could do so. I feel bad for folks that must use Windows for this or that and can't escape it.

[–] eee@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (11 children)

You just have to pick your poison. Windows is easy to use. I don't want a walled garden ios machine, nor do I want to spend 2 hours on a forum trying to troubleshoot every little thing on Linux.

[–] Kethal@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I have used both Windows and Linux extensively, and although Linux used to be a serious amount of nonsense to get stuff to work, it's not like that any more. I spend similar amounts of time troubleshooting on each. Help for Linux sometimes is better. If you end up on the Microsoft answers forum, good luck to you, because it means the real answer is buried somewhere on the Internet, if it's there at all.

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[–] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I always laugh that the option not to get Microsoft 365 is just "Stay Basic"

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That means Microsoft 365 is an acid. Because avoiding acids is how you stay basic.

[–] RandomlyAssigned@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Or you could be neutral, why do neutrals always get oppressed

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[–] WheatleyInc@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Just upgrade back to Windows 10.

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[–] kszeslaw@szmer.info 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This kind of shit is what made me switch to Linux. I just didn't feel like I owned my computer anymore.

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[–] conner5@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 years ago

Windows is bullshit

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The most infuriating thing about windows to me is the big stupid fucking red X on every single file, reminding me that I'm not currently storing my shit on someone else's computer. Is there a way to remove that service from my computer entirely?

[–] dansity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago

Uninstall onedrive

[–] misterfenskers@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It's time to come back to the light. I'm soon making the switch to Linux for good. I was waiting for gaming to become much more accessible... But I was messing up before because I was downloading the wrong drivers.

I've been learning how to use it by keeping my main machine on win10 while my laptop is on pop os. Using that to test my games and learn.

I've been using it long enough that once I get a good break from life, I'll be going thru the steps to switch my gaming PC over.

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[–] Bloodwoodsrisen@lemmy.tf 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I got a new Asus laptop and had to set up windows to be able to get into the advanced boot settings and install Kubuntu. I am so glad I did

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[–] RandomlyAssigned@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

So that's why my disk space has gone down so much

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This feels awfully as a desperate move...

Are M$ numbers dwindling lately or are they just scared there is a rise in Linux users (even non tech savvy) and this is a desperate move to capture more peope?

[–] KrisND@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I do believe there is a up tick in Linux users these days, probably not enough though. The main downside the the popular use of Windows in business, if they get converted Microsoft would probably really struggle even with their other markets.

[–] AbsolutelyNotCats@lemdro.id 6 points 2 years ago

Thank god i use GNU/Linux

Remember, there are always alternatives..

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That choice between Remind me in 3 days or Accept shows the compete contempt they have for the user.

Also that idiotic "let's finish setting up your computer", as if Microsoft is your friend helping you out.

Guys you need to stop using this software. Why do you think so many fan boys are yelling about linux all the time? Because it's fantastic these days.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (17 children)

Install. Linux.

Yes.

Yes, install Linux, yes, it's better, yes, it's a little different, but yes, you will like it better.

Bloat ware? Gone. Antivirus shit? Gone. Spyware? Gone. Reboots for bullshit reasons? Gone. Forced updates? Gone.

Yeah, but it's so complicated and games don't work because there are no drivers!

Bullshit. Drivers exist now for just a out everything and most drivers are put of the box, not like windows requiring installs. Most of not all games now work.

But I needy software X!

Many, not all, but MANY software packages out there have open source equivalents that many times are equal or better than what you're using. If not that, Wine will allow you to run a huge amount of windows software transparently on Linux. YMMV of course but "I need software x!" barely has been an excuse anymore for using windows.

Did I mention it's actually free, no piracy involved (though if that is your thing, lots of software available for that too)

Windows sucks. Microsoft software in general sucks. Microsoft platforms suck (looking at you there, outlook, teams, office, and SharePoint, oh my frigging god what pieces of shit you are)

[–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

My 3080 mobile didn't work with anything but arch.

I love Linux but even I get fed up with it a lot. I do think that 90% of games work now though.

Everything driver related except my graphics cards have been great.

Just saying though, Linux isn't a drag and drop replacement, but it's still good

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[–] creed10@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

so annoying

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Distrowatch.org

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