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[–] 312@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This is Musk’s “Reichstag Fire” moment for Twitter.

The rate limiting is not because of “extreme manipulation”, but because of piss-poor code that Twitter deployed as part of their change to only allow tweets to be viewed if logged in. Twitter is effectively DDoSing itself right now. But, it creates an opportunity for Musk to create a narrative.

These “temporary” limits will probably remain inevitably, as they provide another benefit to Twitter - they drive Blue subscriptions. Unfortunately, they also repel free users from using the platform entirely, and at a much higher ratio.

Twitter is going to become even more of a cesspool than it already is at an alarming rate. Crazy how many established social media platforms have decided to crumble at the exact same time.

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh my god, this is just too funny.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

"The DDOS is coming from INSIDE the HOUSE!"

[–] lunarmedic@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My lord. And they can't/won't piece 1+1 together? Hanlon's razor dictates they are indeed idiots.

[–] 312@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

In order to quickly fix it they would probably have to roll back the change to require login to view tweets, which would be admitting that it wasn’t caused by “attacks” on Twitter, which Elon won’t do. Rock and a hard place.

[–] fidodo@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

It goes deeper than that.

This all started with the API changes. Before they were charging a fair price for the API and companies happily paid it for the convenience. Then Elon got greedy he started charging a ridiculous amount for the API so those companies decided it would be worth it to just deal with the annoyance and switch to scraping the website instead. But when you hit the website it's way less efficient than hitting the API because it's doing a bunch of mixing and ranking which is a lot more complicated and costly than serving static content, which costs a small fraction of real time algorithmic ranking. So now instead of making money off companies that want their data they're losing money on the cloud costs to serve the scrapers.

More recently, they haven't been paying their hosting bills to Google and their service was set to expire at the end of last month. What just happened at the start of this month? They added the limitations. That can't be a coincidence. Now the Google services weren't hosting the site itself, otherwise they'd probably be fully down right now, but it was hosting their trust and safety services for things like fighting spam. That could have also been hosting anti scraper services as well. Since they're so under staffed they probably couldn't swap the services in time, so instead of having anti scraping services like every other big company on the internet, they decided to cut service instead. It's just built up incompetence coming to a head.

[–] notExactlyI20@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yo for real, what's up with all these social media sites literally shooting themselves in the foot as we speak?.

Youtube planning to antagonize adblock users and limiting video watching, Reddit killing itself with ~~bureocracy~~ style and now Twitter doing this shit. Hopefully shit sites like TikTok or Facebook jump on the wagon too.

[–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There are several negatives to the limitation too. Advertisers (which are already leaving in droves) are even further discouraged from placing ads that have a much smaller chance of being seen.

Edit: spelling

[–] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that's the extra stupid part. Not only limiting the amount of content people can see, but also the ads he needs money from.

[–] drpebcak@lemmyrs.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That rate limit is insanely low, even for verified. I’m not verified, but I hit the limit in like 10 minutes of very distracted usage.

[–] 73rdnemesio@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago

The hilarity is that these moves are the exact opposite of the so called Public Square he claims Twitter is or should be.

[–] jamesoh5@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

As a former individual who understands the underlying systems, it seems like they botched deployment of a new feature causing issues and cannot figure out how to solve them.

Most of Twitter is and has been in maintenance mode since acquisition (think of 10 man engineering team and 1 left to handle maintenance).

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago
[–] ArgonautVehicle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Elon Musk, the latest billionaire owner of the online screaming match known as Twitter, sat slumped at his desk, staring at a wall of monitors blinking with a technicolor smorgasbord of error messages. The reason? He'd just let Twitter's hosting contract with Google lapse because he thought it'd be fun to see if he could migrate it somewhere else. The results? Not so fun.

A comment on Reddit had caught his eye, and he couldn't shake it. "Every now and then Elon must have a moment of clarity. Where it occurs to him 'Maybe I am just stupid?' But then he violently buries the thought."

"Stupid?" he scoffed aloud to his empty office, sending a mini landslide of Mars Rover prototypes tumbling off his desk. "I'm a genius."

He remembered how smart he'd felt when he decided to axe the account verification system, only to reinstate it after a week of high-profile mix-ups that included the Dalai Lama being mistaken for a llama enthusiast.

And the content moderation! Who needs it? Well, as it turned out, everyone. Without it, Twitter had turned into a feral wilderness of conspiracy theories, insult slinging, and more unsolicited pictures of eggplants than a greengrocer's catalog.

And then there was Kanye. "Free Kanye!" he'd declared one afternoon after one too many rocket fuel coffees. But after the notorious rapper had declared war on flannel shirts and clogged up the site with CAPS LOCK tweets, the ban was back on faster than you can say "Kim Kardashian for president."

"Stupid?" he muttered again, watching as Twitter spontaneously DDOS'd itself like a robotic bull in a digital china shop.

There was a pause. Then a grin spread slowly across Elon's face, as if he'd just understood the punchline to a particularly tricky joke. "Naaaah," he laughed, slapping the desk.

He looked at the chaos on the screens, the digital calamity his decisions had wrought, and couldn't help but chuckle. There was something amusing about being this absurdly, cosmically, hilariously brilliant.

"Back to the drawing board," he chuckled, picking up a Mars Rover and making it do little jumps across his desk.

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Remember elon musk isn't smart

We shouldn't credit him for Tesla, spacex, etc because it's the employees that actually put in the effort and contribute

Elon is just a Mr moneybags that thinks he smart because the things he funded have been good ideas when he actually never contributed anything to those ideas

I can't wait until the companies he's finding push him out completely

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People call him an inventor. He's not an inventor, he's an investor. He's not an engineer. He doesn't know how to make cars or rockets. He didn't invent the Tesla and he just plowed money into SpaceX. His brilliant ideas are things like having the Tesla make a fart noise. His experience is in coding and, based on comments of former Twitter engineers, he's not even very good at that.

[–] SolarNialamide@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

He doesn't even have experience in coding either. He always pretends to but the only degree he has is in business or something.

[–] M_g@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

Honestly this is probably more close to reality than anyone wants to admit.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

This isn't mildly infuriating, Musk is being the biggest fedi advocate out there! He's selflessly nuking his own site so he can drive traffic to decentralized alternatives. This is a good thing lol, and should be an important lesson on link rot, and that social media should never be the primary method of communication.

[–] Mulligan@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago
[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe it was just me but Musk has never seemed like someone who actually understood tech. Just a rich guy who buys up other's work and talks a big game. I knew the second I heard he bought Twitter it was going to crash and burn. He's doing it way faster than I thought possible.

Of course he will eventually say this was all on purposes and not that he is crap at business and tech.

[–] JayK117@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

Therefore any company that puts out notices or alerts via Twitter should immediately exit the platform. Running their own server on mastodon would be a better bet

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

And it only cost $44 billion.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's backwards. Not wasting your limited time on this planet on a social media site should be the premium feature. I mean, you could do it for free too but almost nobody does.

[–] PlaidDragon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I thought this guy was supposed to be stepping down - didn't he even announce the new CEO?

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it's important to remember that these companies DID NOT CREATE THIS DATA! They are protecting things that are not theirs.

[–] RexKev@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

But don't you think it's their site so they could do whatever they want to ?

Like for example, you own a huge plot that could be used for agriculture and you let your neighbors plant and grow fruits and vegetables in them. They also happened to use water from your house and you noticed that the water bills are increasing so you put in some sort of a restriction to reduce the bills by telling they can only use X liters of water daily.

And let's say, some of the neighbors give you some of the fruits and vegetables so you let them use X+1 liters daily.

So naturally the neighbors who got X liters would make a fuss about it but eventually the plot and water belongs to you while only the seeds,plants and fruits belong to the neighbors.

Here, the plot and water is like Twitter's servers,manpower, API and expenses

Plants, fruits and vegetables are your content you post.

So if you can't get enough of it(land and water), the best is to leave that plot and to look for another one right ?

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Things like Reddit and Twitter are bad for billionaires. It makes it harder for them to exploit you when there is a public place to talk about their bullshit.