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TLDW: Members of the right who were previously ambivalent/disapproving are shifting towards hate/fear.

Source study: https://www.prri.org/research/views-on-lgbtq-rights-in-all-50-states

@AncientFutureNow@lemmy.world gave a great explanation of potential bias in this news.

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[–] AncientFutureNow@lemmy.world 61 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The data comes from an anti-lgbtq+ organization, so I'm gonna call this bullshit. I'm ~~a~~ pretty salty that PBS even promoted this propaganda.

[–] Bristle1744@lemmy.today 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Got a source for them being anti-lgbtq+?

[–] AncientFutureNow@lemmy.world 52 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The organization who published this survey is ran by a man who received all of their education at a religious colleges in Missouri, decided to start an "American Values Atlas", and most recently, is pushing a narrative that support for LGBTQ+ people is diminishing, despite other indicators to the contrary. The survey doesn't disclose who the set of participants is, or how the data was collected, just that large number (22,000) was asked as part of an in-house program (an "American Values Atlas").

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I just scanned because it wasn’t written for changes to stand out but it’s the headline that’s wrong.

I see a lot of lines like

Americans aged 18-29 show a gradual decrease in support for LGBTQ nondiscrimination laws over the last three years, declining from a peak of 83% in 2020 to 75% in 2023

Technically correct that support is declining, but it’s still a huge majority

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago

Looks like this isn't the general population and just a subset of right leaning populations becoming radicalized. Which has been a general trend lately.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's a forseen reaction to activists no longer pushing for passive tolerance but rather active support.

[–] simple@lemm.ee -4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Actually good take. I've seen a lot of LGBT communities, especially online in the last few years, move towards an "us vs. them" mentality

[–] radroot@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it has something to do with the constant existential threat?

[–] alucard@sopuli.xyz -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

True, but two ideas can be correct. As a species when we’re divided we are arguably at our worst.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As a species when we’re divided we are arguably at our worst.

Agreed, but it's ignorant (at best) to suggest that trans people are responsible for social division rather than the right-wing groups actively trying to eradicate trans people.

It'd be like blaming Jews for socially dividing Germany in the interwar era.

[–] alucard@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 months ago

Smh. It was probably not smart to engage here. I really was trying to have a good faith conversation. I absolutely think that trans folks and LGBTQ+ and everyone else should absolutely be able to have every freedom and liberty to live their lives and pursue happiness without threats of any kind. Period.

[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, I feel like the Us vs. Them is kinda originating from the conservative Right though. Every radicalization is just met with more radicalization from the other party. At the end of the day, it's gay people who are being opressed.. and all right-wing people have to complain about are fairy tale propagandas from 4chan and the talking heads on Fox going on about the Trans Agenda converting kids to be gay, which isn't real.