this post was submitted on 20 Mar 2024
206 points (96.8% liked)

News

23267 readers
3206 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 80 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He said Bryan Malinowski collected guns and other weapons, as well as coins, lived in an upper-middle class suburb and earned $253,000 a year.

“When someone makes that much money, there’s no incentive to do anything wrong,” the brother said. “He has so much to lose."

His brother seems willfully ignorant here. Plenty of millionaires and billionaires commit crimes for more cash.

[–] potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but it's very rare rich people try to kill people of they don't have any real history of it.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

its a lot of money but it's not crazy money. you couldn't live la vida loca in NY or LA for that.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 53 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Retracted: There was a piece of the story I missed which kind of destroys my complaint here. Missed it when I read originally.

[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Police shooting skills are both terrible and very good.

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Darker skin just naturally attracts bullets.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They did shoot him in the head, it's really just dumb luck he's not dead.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

🤦‍♂️ I did read the article. Have no idea how I missed that part.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago

Matthew Malinowski said his brother was on life support and doctors haven't performed surgery "because they don’t think he’s gonna make it."

You could update your meme and put Airline Executive in the "killed by law enforcement" section pretty soon.

[–] MelastSB@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

He has a bullet in the head. If that's not "shoot to kill" I don't know what is

[–] matjoeman@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

The article says he is likely to die from the injury. He was shot in the head.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 45 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wild man. Nothing about the warrant. That's when we find out wtf went down.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Neighbors also told KARK that on Tuesday evening they saw guns and ammunition being loaded onto a trailer, while firefighters carried a circular saw, crowbars and other tools into the house."

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Considering it was the ATF he probably was manufacturing or illegally possessing NFA regulated items. (Machine guns, Short Barreled Rifles, Short Barreled Shotguns, or suppressors)

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or he posted something online to pop a dozen red flags and have ATF come calling.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There isn't a federal red flag law though, and Arkansas doesn't have one at the state level either... soooo... ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/law/extreme-risk-law/

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 points 7 months ago

Also considering the ATF it's quite likely that they just accused him of doing that and have no real proof. It's happened before.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 42 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I was today years old when I figured out conservatives hate the ATF because they shoot white people too

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 9 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Conservatives have been hating on the BATFE for decades. They don't hate them because "they shoot white people too" they hate them because they are a bunch of thugs with badges who run around violently enforcing unpopular laws, many of which they create themselves.

It's why they refused to seat a permanent director for 16 years and continually starve them of money. There was a strong push during the Trump Presidency to abolish the BATFE and fold their duties into the FBI.

Conservatives ain't great but you're wrong about why they hate them.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (4 children)

they hate them because they are a bunch of thugs with badges who run around violently enforcing unpopular laws, many of which they create themselves.

What do you think "they shoot white people too" means? What you wrote here is exactly that. It's a bunch of thugs with badges who shoot (violently enforcing) conservatives because of laws conservatives wrote. 90% of them wouldn't give a single shit if the ATF was only shooting black people over the laws they created specifically to oppress black people. They hate that they are being targeted by their laws when those laws were intended to target others.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You basically described all cops. ACAB

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

You're wrong.

Proceeds to argue the exact same point the parent comment was making. Why have reading comprehension skills just fallen off a cliff amongst the general population here?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So you agree that conservatives hate the ATF because they're a personal threat.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes. The BATFE is a clear an present danger to every American and has been for a very long time.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Generally the ATF cannot be brought up without a conservative making a joke about them killing dogs which is in reference to the Ruby Ridge standoff where they entrapped neo Nazi Randy Weaver into selling sawed off shotguns. He missed his court date and when they went to arrest him, US marshals came across his son, the son's friend, and his dog while in the woods. The marshals claim the dog was coming toward them to attack them and shot it. After the friend shot and killed a marshal, the son ran away up the hill and the remaining marshal shot him in the back and killed him.

So the joke does not even make sense since it was the US Marshals who killed the dog and started the standoff.

Conservatives also tend to go on and on about how if victims of law enforcement violence would have just complied, they would be fine. They don't recognize their cognitive dissonance with Ruby Ridge though since had Randy simply complied and made his court date, the stand off would not have happened.

This is not to defend the actions of the ATF, the US marshals, or the FBI, BTW. The ATF did a terrible operation. The US Marshals escalated it when it did not need to be escalated, and the FBI shot Randy a second time when he was retreating but the bullet also killed his wife who was holding their 10 month old.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 11 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I don't think it's that deep in that particular, the ATF just likes shooting dogs, like all cops.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

They conducted a sting, there's a lot wrong with how it was handled but he never denied making unlawful weapons and to add to that he was convicted of doing it prior to ruby ridge.

Let's not whitewash either side of this fence please.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I feel like you don't really need to show up at 6 am to serve a search warrant. Making a commotion and trying to barge into someone's home when they've just awoken is kind of a recipe for them to make bad decisions. If you need surprise to make sure they don't destroy evidence, just get them when they're out of the house. Wait until he goes to work, then send the crew to the house and a couple agents to his work to serve him there and escort him to the residence? It might take a little longer to figure out when the house is empty and you can secure it, but it means fewer people get shot.

[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

But that wouldn't be fun for the paramilitary police.

ACAB

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Police shoot Airport Executive while attempting to arrest him

FTFY

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They weren't even trying to arrest him, just search his house.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 9 points 7 months ago

This can happen when the PoPo roll up with a warrant and decide to just barge in without announcing themselves. I'm not saying it happened like that in this case but there's plenty of examples out there.

Do not trust the BATFE or their version of events. Ever.

[–] flyboy_146@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Also, he ended up with a bullet in the head. 😶

“We don’t know if he’s going to make it in the next 24 hours," Matthew Malinowski told NBC News by phone in his first public comments. "He was shot in the head."

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like he took at least one shot at the ATF which goes a long way to explain how he got shot in the head...

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Let me just update the scorecard here:

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Wonder what the search warrant was for.

load more comments (9 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›