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[–] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Man, we'd really be screwed without piracy and emulators. This number only counts legal availability.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Legitimately, right?

Or are 87% of classic games not able to be found even as ROMs through piracy? 🤔

I mean, there's a lot of other media that is the same... Like books unavailable to be purchased, but out there at a library or as a PDF online somewhere.

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a paper book I wanted to buy, but it’s not an option. I can only find a paper version used that is being sold for like $200.

The book is called “Parasite Eve”.

Yes, the game was kind of a loose sequel to the book.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wanted to see about finding copies of super old books from like medieval times and shit. Just copies, mind you. I could really only find authentic style reproductions done by hand that cost thousands to hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I just wanted the contents of the books. To read. Not as, like, a piece of friggin' art. 😩

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well I doubt those works are copyrighted. So I’d just find the text remove any special formatting or characters and look for a printing service.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If I could look at the text I'd do that; that was what I was expecting to find, after all. But these are like 12th century manuscripts that you can't even view without special access to places like the Vatican and things of that nature because they are extremely delicate. If a PDF or digital copy exists of things like that, I haven't been able to find any.

Maybe worth it if you're a scholar but... I'm just a curious guy lol

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you run for Pope I’d vote for you under the condition that you make all the historical documents digitally available for anyone to view freely.

[–] MrSluagh@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I'm a Discordian Pope. Maybe I can help you out

[–] alongwaysgone@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And, you'd be wrong. Works don't lose their copyright just because they go out of print and are hard to find. Thanks to Disney, copyright survived for the length of the authors life plus 90 years.

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

I think the documents he is referring to existed long before the United States was even a country. I think he is talking about stuff that was literally written like 800 years ago.

[–] mint@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

more than possibly any other industry, gaming companies don't really see their video games as "art."

nintendo doesn't want you to buy their old games because they want you to buy their new ones. that's all they give a shit about.

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their definition of "classic" is rather contrived in my opinion. "Classic" means both old and influential. They ditched the influential part. From their in-depth article:

It’s hard to define exactly what a “classic game” is, but for the sake of this study, we looked at all games released before 2010, which is roughly the year when digital game distribution started to take off.

Our random list of 1,500 games was taken from MobyGames, a huge community-run database of video games.

I can’t feel sorry for the slow disappearance of some Wii Shovelware from 15 years ago. Time is ruthless to all mediocre media.

[–] ArcticCircleSystem@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Because I guess only mediocre games end up not becoming influential? Besides, even the shovelware crap can be important to researchers. ~Strawberry

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Cloanto, the company that owns the rights to the Commodore Amiga line, have a legal emulator that they sell called Amiga Forever. It's about half the price of one modern AAA game, and when you download it, it comes with about fifty games of varying notability, and there's many times more you can just install and play. And it's all legal.

I would love this to be the industry norm, imagine being able to download a NES! It's annoying that if we want future generations to be able to experience games of the past (whether to learn from them, or just for pleasure) we need to teach our children about piracy.

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