I just bought an actual domain and use that π
As an added bonus, letsencrypt works with no effort.
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Same here. Well worth it for $10 a year
I bought domain from joker.com, 10 years for $33
What? How they sell for so long?
I don't know but they do. I picked the cheapest name I could find and went with it.
Checked and they still do sell domains for 10y but price has gone up.
I use a subdomain of a domain name I own.
According to IETF, you should only use .intranet, .internal, .private, .corp, .home or .lan for your private network ( RFC 6762 Appendix G ). Using other TLDs might cause issues in the future, especially since new gTLDs seems to show up every few months or so, which can collide with the TLD you use for your local network.
@redcalcium
Really? Not .local? Why is it the default on so much?
@zephyr
A long time ago Microsoft and some teaching sources used .local in example documentation for local domains and it stuck. Like contoso.com was Microsoft's example company. I was taught to use .local decades ago and it took a very long time to unlearn it.
The one reserved for residential usage is home.arpa.
Interesting, so this is the latest recommendation? Which is probably why I haven't seen it in the wild yet, at least in my circles.
Which means they probably going to ~~cash out~~ release gTLDs for .intranet, .internal, .private, .corp, .home and .lan soon...
A problem with the .lan TLD (maybe others from this list) is that web browsers do not consider it a TLD when you type it in the address bar, and only show you the option to search for that term in your default search engine. You have to explicitly type https:// before it, to have the option to visit the URL.
E.g type example.com in the address bar -> pressing Enter triggers going to https://example.com. Type example.lan -> pressing Enter triggers a search for example.lan using your default search engine.
Little known trick--or perhaps everyone knows it and is quietly laughing behind my back--with Chromium browsers and Firefox (and maybe Safari, I'm not sure), you can add a slash to the end of an address and it will bypass the search.
So, for example, my router on the LAN goes by the hostname "pfsense". I can then type pfsense.lan/ into my address bar and it will bring me to the web UI, no HTTP/s needed.
You can throw a / after to force it to recognize as a URL too.
There actually is a correct awnser: home.arpa
See https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/homenet-domain-name.html
I use a subdomain of a domain name I own.
I use home.arpa for all my LAN hosts.
.home.lan for me.
I use .lan for everything the router can resolve names for, and .local for Avahi mDNS π
fritz.box for the machines themselves because Fritz!BOX (although handed out by Pi-Hole),but .lan for anything going over the local proxy towards the same machine for TLS.
Some machines use my custom domain name instead of .lan, if they need to be accessible from outside. So these last ones go directly over the local proxy internally, but automatically over CloudFlare Tunnel and Authentik when not at home. The proxy being Caddy.
I tend to use .local
You shouldn't use .local for your manually defined local domain names if you plan to ever use mdns/avahi/bonjour/zeroconf.
And .box has been registered as a generic TLD now, so you could run into external .box domains.
Hopefully AVM gets to register fritz.box then, because they've been setting up their customers with that as their internal domain for ages...
For local DNS home.arpa is I think what we're 'supposed' to use, but I use .lan
Only use another domain name if you actually have it registered, like myname.net or something. As a bonus you can then get a wildcard letsencrypt SSL cert for easy HTTPS.
Why should you only use ones you own, even if it's just local network?
Because of interference with existing domains. Say you set a computer on your network to mypc.google.com, that won't work because the DNS server will lookup google.com as an external domain.
Thereβs a draft rfc that defines β.home.arpaβ as an internal. It looks stupid and totally misses the point, but works.
Yeah, but itβs a proposal, so not really better that .lan.