I'd never seen this before, and its fun to get an inside look into the early lore. They talk about playing pen and paper Fallout to test new perks, I wish I could go back in time and join those games.

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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Did you get a chance to watch the show on Amazon yet? The kids and I watched the first two episodes last night. So far, it feels like Fallout, and I am not disappointed!

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I was laughing at all the YouTube videos last month "this is why the fallout show will suck!". People are such haters. It's not like the fallout games were known for their Oscar winning dialogue and plot, so as soon as I saw that the show has the exact same aesthetic I knew they could pull it off. I liked the first episode i saw.

Glad I didn't watch with my kids though lol that sex scene came out of nowhere, but the gore I was happy about. Cause the games are pretty damn gory.

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas are well known for high quality dialogue and plot. The Bethesda games on the other hand...

[–] Deway@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Fallout 1 has a high quality plot? That's new.

[+] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world -29 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Nobody remembers fallout 1 and 2. If it wasn't for Bethesda, fallout would be a dead series nobody remembers. The only reason fallout is relevant and even has a tv is because of Bethesda buying it. It's their series now, and their interpretation of it is the only one that matters.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Plenty of people remember and adore the first two games, and even tactics. Bethesda's version of Fallout is great, and so are the originals. Get over yourself.

[+] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world -12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Like I mentioned to someone else, fallout 1 and 2 sold 750k copies combined.

Fallout 3, nv and 4 sold 50 million copies combined.

I'm responding to people shitting on Bethesda's version of fallout and wishing the show was more like the first two games, and I'm responding with "most people don't know the first two games, Bethesda fallout is The mainstream". Am I wrong?

[–] LucidNightmare@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

To give you something else to think about for Fallout 1, 2, and tactics, there were also not very many people who could afford computers at the time of their releases.

I wouldn’t attribute the games being any less good than the newer games just because they didn’t sell as much as those newer games.

Fallout 3 and New Vegas was on PC, Xbox 360, and PS3. That’s also around the time the tech became much more available to the broader audiences. More people than ever had gaming consoles, and gaming PCs.

Fallout New Vegas has a lot of the charm of the older games, especially the wackiness that many love. Fallout 3 was (in my opinion) a much more focused game, in that it focused on the main story and kept most of the wackiness to a minimum compared to the originals and New Vegas.

I see what you’re saying, but if the originals did not exist, neither would the newer games. We shouldn’t shit on the classics, because without those classics, we wouldn’t have the show to even begin with.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Yeah.

I agree that Bethesda has done a fine job with it, but I don't agree that we should pretend that none of the other games ever existed just so you don't feel left out.

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't see how those games being less remembered discredits the fact they had solid writing and plot.

Popularity contest does not correlate with high quality.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm responding to people complaining that the show is more like bathesda fallout than the first 2 games. I'm explaining why. Because popularity and mainstream appeal. I'm sorry you don't like facts

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Hmmmm. I'm not even complaining about that. Considering you can't roleplay in a TV show, guess the writing can have potential.

Just trying to refute your points about the writing of the games. I understand why the TV show would be based on something that has mainstream appeal. That makes a lot of sense.

[–] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Okay, disregarding how terrible of a take that was, which part of your rant was relevant to the topic at hand?

[+] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world -12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fallout 1 sold 600k copies. Fallout 2 sold 125k.

Fallout 3 sold 12 million Copies. Fallout 4 sold 25 million copies.

I guess my point is that you have no argument. Bethesda fallout is undeniably the dominant and mainstream version of fallout that people know.

[–] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I guess my point is that you have no argument.

I think you are mistaking me for t0fr. While I do think you had a terrible take, and did ask how it was relevant to what t0fr said about Bethesda's Fallouts being known for having worse writing, I never argued that Bethesda's games weren't the most well known in the series. So, again I fail to see how what you are saying has any relevance to what was asked...

But, for the sake of argument, the StarWars sequel trilogy had the highest combined box office of any of the trilogy's by far. Does that mean the Sequel trilogy is the best of the three? Did it have the best writing? Does that mean that long time fans shouldn't get an opinion when stories that they loved get steamrolled over?

Dont get me wrong, I'm enjoying the Fallout show, and I like the Bethesda games. But sales numbers and ownership aren't the be all end all of what makes good fiction. And pretending like it is largely plays a roll in why we get so much high budget schlock.

[–] Wootz@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

By the looks of this thread, we're a lot of nobodys.

[+] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world -8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

PC gamers who are shitting all over Bethesda and the tv show, you're not the target audience cause you're unpleasable. I've met tons of people who've played fallout 3, nv and 4. But rarely meet anyone who has played 1 and 2, and I'm talking about the real world not your PC gamer forums

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well New Vegas was amazing, and not written by Bethesda. 3 and 4 on the other hand were pretty weak regardless of how well they sold.

[–] Wootz@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I don't know what you're up to, but I ain't shitting on the Bethesda games, that's on you.

Put it down to age. I'm sure not a lot of people who jumped in at Fallout 4 bothered to go all the way back to the beginning, but I gotta say, nothing says "PC gamer forum" like lumping every age group together and calling something dead just because you didn't dig it.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Oof, the further I read, the worse you sound.

PS, I'm a console gamer who was excited for 3 & 4 BECAUSE of the first two games, and I'm really enjoying the show. Which kind of throws your stereotypes and generalizations out the window. So please stop.

[–] SuperSpecialNickname@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Joke's on you, New Vegas wasn't written by Bethesda and go figure, it's the best game in the series (alongside 1 and 2).

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

That's like saying the Empire strikes back isn't a star wars movie because it wasn't written by George Lucas

[–] emptyother@programming.dev 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, sex scene and sex jokes was a bit surprising, compared to how tame Bethesda games are on stuff like that. Well, at least the unmodded ones.

But didn't scare me away after first episode either. Looks promising.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 5 points 7 months ago

I'm actually happy to hear that. I was afraid it would take too much inspiration from the Bethesda games, but sounds like maybe they looked more at Fallout 1 and 2, which would be just what I hoped they would.

I'm excited to give it a chance now.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

The Ghoul definitely took the Bloody Mess perk! 😂

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Mine are teenagers, and that sex scene made me a little nervous at first, but I'm glad they didn't make it very graphic.

[–] MacedWindow@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Gore in games always bothers me less, it feels more cartoony. I'm not asking for them to take it out, but I would like a "for babies" mode that blurs it. I felt a little sick to my stomach at a few points.

[–] DharkStare@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I didn't realize there would be sex scenes in it. Glad to know before I started watching. I miss the days when it was pretty safe to watch anything. I wish all these producers would realize that some people have families and that we don't need sex scenes and nudity in everything.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The only nudity is a male butt, but there is no question that they are having sex. I was comfortable with my 15&16yo teenagers watching it, but might be awkward with middle schoolers.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

having sex in the communial wedding dress too

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

At least within that context, the scene made sense.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Watched the first episode. Despite knowing every single person at that opening had to well...not do so well, the girl and her last line was heartbreaking

[–] MacedWindow@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Only the first episode so far, I really enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to seeing a Super Mutant at some point, I always love them in the games.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I'm curious if they will go with the mindless ogre version, or the smarter version.

[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 7 months ago

Whoa this is awesome, thanks